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[edit]I have flagged this for AI, specifically regarding the 2024 edits by Kharbaan Ghaltaan, of which there are too many to count here, but which contain many hallmarks of LLM-generated text from early to mid 2024 covered in WP:AISIGNS. (This is also the case of their other edits since 2024 or so.) Note that although this is a contentious topic, this does not have anything to do with the subject matter; it's the same AI slop phrasing that has proliferated across Wikipedia on every subject imaginable (and is also not allowed per WP:NOLLM).
Just a few excerpts (note: this is not the full list of things that need to be fixed, they are just examples, I could pick a dozen more):
The iconic Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem underwent restoration and renovation in the Ottoman era, showcasing a blend of Islamic and Byzantine architectural elements.
- superficial analyses (WP:SUPERFICIAL), 2024 AI vocabulary (WP:AIVOCAB), promotionality (WP:AIPUFFERY)Palestine features significant lakes and rivers that play a vital role in its geography and ecosystems.
: undue emphasis on significance (WP:AILEGACY, WP:AIPUFFERY), is/are avoidance ("features" rather than "contains", "has", etc)Banna have contributed to the contemporary pop scene with their unique styles and powerful voices. Their songs address both personal and political themes, resonating with Palestinians and audiences worldwide.
: WP:AILEGACY, WP:AIPUFFERY- etc. Also note the dramatic difference in this user's writing style between their sandbox and these edits (note: again, this is not a comment on the subject matter, just the writing style). Also note that they have unambiguously used ChatGPT for at least some purposes, and had a page (User:Kharbaan Ghaltaan/Baghdad) speedied for ChatGPT usage.
So yeah this is going to be a nightmare to clean up since there is so much of it Gnomingstuff (talk) 00:11, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the flag. You've got a keen eye! In solidarity, Brynn Who Likes Editing | talk w/ me! 09:33, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- You got reverted by someone who's now vanished , I've added it back (I'm going through the tracking page and tagging high-traffic articles) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:28, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
- Is someone currently working on this? SideEffect (talk) 03:36, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- Nope, feel free if you have the time. It's 35% of the article, so the content would need to be preserved/rewritten for WP:V in some form (instead of being removed), which is something WP:AINB usually leaves to local editors more familiar with the topic Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 11:43, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- It’s such a mess. How did this happen? SideEffect (talk) 03:57, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- I will remove unsourced content. It's been months. We cannot afford to make incorrect statements in the article. SideEffect talk to your doctor 09:55, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- Nope, feel free if you have the time. It's 35% of the article, so the content would need to be preserved/rewritten for WP:V in some form (instead of being removed), which is something WP:AINB usually leaves to local editors more familiar with the topic Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 11:43, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- Can you tell me which editor(s) added AI content so I can review their edits? SideEffect (talk) 03:24, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- It was Kharbaan Ghaltaan, if you download WP:Who Wrote That? and open it on the article, then click on the sentence starting
In 2007, internal divisions between ...
, you'll see everything they've written highlighted. It all either needs rewriting, removal, or review for WP:V and WP:NPOV/WP:WTW + WP:COPYVIO. In some instances you might be able to replace the content with that from the revision before they began editing (Feb 2024). Pinging some contributors to the article who may be interested: @Onceinawhile, Tiamut, Sean.hoyland, and Zero0000: (no worries if busy) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 14:34, 13 September 2026 (UTC)- Thanks, The article contains severe hallucinations. You can review some of my changes. If no one objects, I will continue removing edits by Kharbaan Ghaltaan. SideEffect talk to your doctor 17:57, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- edits look good to me at a glance, WP:BEBOLD! Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 18:12, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- I will soon get Kharbaan Ghaltaan's contributions to under 5%, then remove the AI tag from the article. I will also do some sanity checks beforehand. SideEffect talk to your doctor 11:42, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, The article contains severe hallucinations. You can review some of my changes. If no one objects, I will continue removing edits by Kharbaan Ghaltaan. SideEffect talk to your doctor 17:57, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- It was Kharbaan Ghaltaan, if you download WP:Who Wrote That? and open it on the article, then click on the sentence starting
AI cleanup
[edit]Please let me know if there are any concerns while I’m cleaning up. SideEffect (talk) 02:26, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- It's such a mess..... SideEffect (talk) 04:48, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
- Update: There will be a lot more content removed as Kharbaan Ghaltaan added so much content using AI.The narrative is shaped by AI, and some content has changed, but the core narrative and text largely remain. SideEffect talk to your doctor 03:14, 14 September 2026 (UTC)
- Who wrote me that is still showing 19.8% of AI-generated content by Kharbaan Ghaltaan SideEffect talk to your doctor 20:52, 14 September 2026 (UTC)
- I think poorly sourced contents should be immediately removed even if it’s possibly true. It’s difficult for someone to verify unless they are a subject matter expert. SideEffect (talk) 04:50, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
Kharbaan Ghaltaan
[edit]@Kharbaan Ghaltaan has added a lot of AI content. I will be removing their edits and reverting back to a version before it. SideEffect (talk) 05:17, 13 September 2026 (UTC)
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