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Veepstakes: Strick says no thanks

Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:09 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland was asked by NPR's Norris about Obama's ability to win in rural or Appalachia Ohio. "Well, I have been asked if there may be a racial element to this and let me just be real candid about that.  I think race involves everything that happens in this country, wherever it occurs -- large city, small towns, or any region of our country.  But I can also tell you that there are two ways to run statewide in Ohio: you can use the John Kerry approach or you can use the Ted Strickland approach.  And I have suggested to Senator Obama’s campaign leadership that they need to use the Ted Strickland approach. Now, what is that approach?  That approach is recognizing that Ohio is big and diverse, that there are different economies in Ohio, and that it is important to reach out to all of Ohio. And I believe Barack Obama can and will carry Ohio because I think he’s going to understand that you can’t just appeal to the large metropolitan areas and ignore or neglect the rest of the state. 

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd takes a look at Sen. Barack Obama's "short list" of potential running mates and discusses Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland expressing no interest in the position.

MS. NORRIS: If you’re out campaigning with Barack Obama with the fervor that you have just described in the course of this interview, should we see that as a bit of an audition for you?
STRICKLAND: Absolutely not.  If drafted, I will not run; nominated, I will not accept; and if elected, I will not serve. So I don’t know how more crystal clear I can be.
NORRIS: Don’t they all say that, though?
STRICKLAND: No, I don’t think they all say that. I’ve heard people say, ‘you know, if I was asked, it would certainly be something I would have to consider.’ That does not mean that I am any less committed to helping Barack Obama become the next president.” 

The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder writes: “Gov. Ted Strickland's strict and unequivocal statement about his lack of interest in being vice president or accepting a nomination was news to most of the media, and to me. But not to Ohioans. It seems that Strickland has said the exact same thing for a year. Didn't matter whether Hillary Clinton was the presumptive nominee. Here's Strickland in November of 2007.”

First Read reported yesterday on Gen. James L. Jones (ret.) being discussed. AP writes, “A running mate from the military ranks could help address concerns that Obama lacks foreign policy experience, having served just three years in the Senate. It could also provide a counterpoint to the military bonafides of the GOP ticket, which will be led by Vietnam War hero John McCain.”

Politico looks at Jim Webb's affinity for the Confederate history.

Bloomberg News notes the reality regarding Lieberman getting the nod from McCain, his support for abortion rights. "Evangelicals need look no further than Lieberman's Senate record -- which includes support for abortion rights, gun control, gay civil unions and stem-cell research -- to find reasons to reject him."

Meanwhile, “McCain praised Mayor Bloomberg yesterday -- talking up Hizzoner as a strong candidate for governor and refusing to rule him out as a vice presidential candidate,” the New York Post writes. “ ‘We don't talk about our vice-presidential possibilities,’ he said, but pointedly added, ‘I appreciate Mayor Bloomberg enormously and the great job he's done as mayor.’” 

USA Today has five lessons for picking a running mate:
1. Be wary of so-called "Dream" tickets. "Still, presidential nominees tend to be wary of dream tickets -- there hasn't been one in a generation -- because of scars from old battles and qualms about loyalty."

2. Do no harm. "Eagleton is the most dramatic example of a running-mate pick gone awry. ... After the Eagleton episode, Carter became the first presidential candidate to put prospective running mates through more stringent and systematic vetting, a practice that McCain and Obama are following. Each has appointed high-profile teams to the task."

3. Mind the gap. "A running mate can help mollify a voter bloc, put a state in competition or fill a gap in experience. ... This year, gender balance might be a factor. Obama could reach out to female voters unhappy about Clinton's failure to win the nomination by putting another woman on the ticket — Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, perhaps, or Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. If Obama doesn't, McCain could try to exploit those hard feelings among Clinton supporters and attract their votes by choosing a female running mate. ... McCain's choice also could try to address concerns about his age. At 72, he would be the oldest president inaugurated for a first term. He "really needs a vice presidential candidate, a partner with him who I would suggest is a young up-and-coming governor with executive experience who could help balance, obviously, the age issue," Kemp said. "It's no secret."

4. Agree on the duties. "When the talks with vice presidential prospects get serious, the nominee and the potential running mate need to agree on the job description, say those who have gone through the process. That could be a particular issue in the wake of Cheney's service as the most powerful vice president in U.S. history, Bush's central adviser on issues from the invasion of Iraq to energy policy."

5. It's not a "buddy" picture: "We try to turn this (into) a buddy film," Klain, who led the process of choosing a running mate for Gore, said in an interview. "You know -- Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, the Lone Ranger and Tonto, Batman and Robin. But that's not what it's like. It's more like a CEO picking a COO (chief operating officer), an editor-in-chief picking a managing editor. You need someone you can work with … and you need someone who is a potential successor in the event of crisis or calamity."

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That was some of the best political advice that Obama could have recieved concerning OHIO.

OHIO is very big and vey diverse.  His campaign needs to focus all type of people in ohio.  The Ted Strickland approach is exactly what Obama should be considering using in his campaign in Ohio!!!


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I think that Barack Obama will win in many states that the Dems have lost in in past years.  He'll be able to appeal to a broader set of regular Americans than the elitist "Bush Hugger" McCain.

I hope that people just leave Barack alone about picking a VP.  Let him make his own choice and hopefully obey rule #1 in avoiding so-called Dream Tickets.

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Go Obama 08/12!
The thing about a shooting star is that it ends up as a falling star -- all fizzle. It would appear that Strickland recognizes one when he sees it.

Obama-nation = ABOMINATION
I can certainly understand ANY governor being committed to his or her State...and that's fine.  Obama will need the support of influential governors as he seeks to win the election and then subsequently govern and lead.  Strickland does everyone a service by letting people know definitely and early that he is not inclined.  I take him at his word on that and his commitment to help Obama (and I agree with him on the diversity of Ohio too).
Well, my view on VP is that they should help people GOVERN and LEAD...and that they should be Presidential material, just in case.  Of course many individuals can fit the bill showing strengths in different ways.  If they can help with a voting block (geographic or otherwise) or help round out the Presidential candidate, so much the better.  And yes, they should "get along".
November 2007, Columbus Dispatch:

Strickland repeatedly said he's not interested in being Clinton's Veep, even invoking the famous quote from general William Tecumseh Sherman: “If nominated, I will not accept; if drafted, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Nov_2007_Strickland_Said_he_will_NOT_serve_as_Clinton_s_VP

Joe Biden....the Number 2 dude!!!!

Best Anti-Crime Bill in History!!!

I just hope Ohio's election officials are prepared with working machines and enough ballots this fall.  Their elections haven't been run as poorly as Florida's but pretty close.  Gov. Strickland's belief that Obama can win there is heartening, I hope he's right.  The rust belt seems to have had more young people killed in Iraq than any area of the country.  Obama is the best choice for reviving the economy and putting an end to the lies that started this ridiculous war.  
Hey Bunny...

Fizzle this; Strickland can't stand Washington...
and being Governor has more perks than second fiddle VP..  read the whole article before singing your hate verbage...
The CLINTONS have an Enemies List.

This is one more reason why Obama doesnt need her. She is a scandal a minute..

If he wants a woman its Sebelius.

Biden, Clarke, Warner and Hagel look good to me
Bunny, Winston-Salem, NC.  "The thing about a shooting star is that it ends up as a falling star -- all fizzle. It would appear that Strickland recognizes one when he sees it."
Strickland said the same thing about Hillary, get your facts straight and she was the shooting star that fell.  The same will happen to McCain not Obama.
So Bunny, NC, what does it say when Strickland refused in Dec 2007 to be involved with the VP stakes? He would not be VP no matter who would run.
What exactly qualifies McCain for the job of POTUS? Is it his understanding of the economy? If you truly examine his economic policies, you will note that they will severely increase the budget deficit, increase our dependency on foreign oil, and increase the disparity between the haves and the have-nots:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_budget_according_to_mccain_part_i.html
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_budget_according_to_mccain_part_ii.html
Is it his Foreign policy credentials? This man who states he wants to bomb Iran, and occupy Iraq for 100 years?
Is it his "war hero" status?
http://www.usvetdsp.com/smith_mc.htm
Some war hero.
I repeat, what exactly qualifies McCain for POTUS?
Certainly not his judgment, morals (lobbyist ties, Keating 5, affairs, etc.), "experience" (Sunni vs Shiites).
Well?
Strickland, or Rendell would smack of something stinky to me. I know that this is politics, but their getting the nod as Veep, after this terribly repugnant primary, is too much politicking for me.
People talk about McCain's foreign policy experience, but every time he talks about Iraq, he's seems confused, and makes mistakes. Why would a "war hero" not support the GI bill? He doesn't know much about the economy - which seems connected to this manufactured war. His campaign is being run by people with serious conflicts of interest, kind of like the oil men in the White House right now. I was relieved to hear that McCain will veto all those "beer" marks.  Oh, but we do have that tax holiday to look forward to next year, he didn't get around to it this year, anything as long as we keep the oil companies happy. Please, we've been here before people, it didn't work out so well... We can't keep doing the same thing, and hope for a different result! We need to weed out these backward thinking old guys, let them see the light at the end of their tunnel, is a train! We the people need to take our White House back...
Obama 08
Having watch Strickland campaign with Hillary in Ohio, Ted Strickland would be a poor choice for Obama as VP, as would probably Evan Bayh of Indiana.  I was unimpressed with Strickland as a Hillary surrogate.  The only other prominent Clinton surrogate that I think could help Obama as VP in the general election would be Pennslyvania Gov. Ed Rendell.
I can certainly understand ANY governor being committed to his or her State...and that's fine.  Obama will need the support of influential governors as he seeks to win the election and then subsequently govern and lead.  Strickland does everyone a service by letting people know definitely and early that he is not inclined.  I take him at his word on that and his commitment to help Obama (and I agree with him on the diversity of Ohio too).

Lisa, New Britain, CT YES WE CAN! (Sent Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:21 AM)

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What you fail to understand is when a good thing comes along committment goes out the window.  obama swore to the people have IL that he was committed to fulfilling his term in the senate. Uh,  yeah right-- seems a good thing came along.  Now Governor Stickland, while saying the right things, he knows obama will not win and does not wish to be part of the train wreck.  He knows its not a good thing coming in November.
strickland not vp material

What about the Asian Americans.
Candidates on equal pay.
Kerry, Kaine, Webb on Sunday talk shows.
What McCain doesn't want to talk about.
McCains Temper Tantrum.

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Good because I didn't like him any way! I like Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, Bob Casey from Pennsylvania, or Robert Wexler from Florida,
If you want a VP who's had military service check Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee.  His health care knowledge is pretty impressive as well.   Biden and Webb are both good and have military time.  Richardson would be good and may deliver a draw for Latinos.  The unity move would be Hagel, who I'd rather see than Hillary Clinton.
Jim Webb's affinity for the Confederacy could help on an Obama ticket. Twenty percent of voters in WV and KY, as well as some voters in places like PA and IA said they'd never vote for a black man (and other more horrible sentiments). It may take a son of the confederacy to sway them to vote for Obama, IF he wanted to coddle the racist vote. (I, for one, don't believe racists should be given credence by Obama or Hillary.)
Obama should have either someone that comes from a swing state or a minority on the ticket.  This could include Richardson or one of the governors previously mentioned (Sebelius or Napolitano).  I would encourage Obama not to pick a current Senator since it is hard to tell which way the Senate might end up.  


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