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Identity HelpCopper pseudomorphs from New Mexico
3rd Aug 2017 02:34 UTCReiner Mielke Expert OP
Is this https://www.mindat.org/photo-48804.html actually from here https://www.mindat.org/photo-275059.html or are there two localities? If so where is the Georgetown locality on google maps? Thank You
3rd Aug 2017 04:02 UTCErin Delventhal
I believe there is just one locality for these - though I've been meaning to ask around to some folks here about the full extent of the deposit.
I do think these look like they also need the minID merged, as unless I'm very mistaken, that is the same specimen.
I do think these look like they also need the minID merged, as unless I'm very mistaken, that is the same specimen.
3rd Aug 2017 05:17 UTCPaul Brandes 🌟 Manager
I agree; these appear to be the same specimen.
What's more disturbing to me is that according to the Mindat description, specimen 275059 is allegedly from the Copper Rose Mine, yet none of the labels associated with the specimen state this.
What's more disturbing to me is that according to the Mindat description, specimen 275059 is allegedly from the Copper Rose Mine, yet none of the labels associated with the specimen state this.
3rd Aug 2017 05:59 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager
Hi
I cannot comment on the exact locality - but there does seem to be a discrepancy between the Mindat map and Google.
One text, Kimbler, F.S. & Narsavage, R.J. (1981) New Mexico Rocks & Minerals: The Collecting Guide (including Maps)
By Frank S. Kimbler, Robert J. Narsavage p20: describes the site as:
"Copper roses can be found on the dumps of the Rose mine. From Hanover, go 6.5 miles east on Rte 90. From this point, hike approx. 1.5 miles due south. The Rose Mine is named and located on the topographical map of the area (San Lorenzo Topo). ... The site is located on private property owned by a local rancher and by the Kennecott Copper Corporation (Santa Rita)."
The Mindat article (referenced for the locality) states that "The Rose mine is located in the Mimbres mining district, Grant County, New Mexico 3.25 miles southwest of the village of San Lorenzo in the SE 1/4 of Section 35, T17S, R11W, NMPM, at an altitude of 6440 feet (see the U.S.G.S. "San Lorenzo" provisional 7.5-minute quadrangle, 1985)."
The current Mindat map appears to show the mine to be North East of San Lorenzo !!!!
And yes I believe the photos to be of the same specimen.
And the locality to be the same.
Reiner, Georgetown is apparently a ghost town with no buildings - I believe the town ceased around the early 1900s.
Perhaps someone more familiar with New Mexico can update this.
Cheers
Keith
I cannot comment on the exact locality - but there does seem to be a discrepancy between the Mindat map and Google.
One text, Kimbler, F.S. & Narsavage, R.J. (1981) New Mexico Rocks & Minerals: The Collecting Guide (including Maps)
By Frank S. Kimbler, Robert J. Narsavage p20: describes the site as:
"Copper roses can be found on the dumps of the Rose mine. From Hanover, go 6.5 miles east on Rte 90. From this point, hike approx. 1.5 miles due south. The Rose Mine is named and located on the topographical map of the area (San Lorenzo Topo). ... The site is located on private property owned by a local rancher and by the Kennecott Copper Corporation (Santa Rita)."
The Mindat article (referenced for the locality) states that "The Rose mine is located in the Mimbres mining district, Grant County, New Mexico 3.25 miles southwest of the village of San Lorenzo in the SE 1/4 of Section 35, T17S, R11W, NMPM, at an altitude of 6440 feet (see the U.S.G.S. "San Lorenzo" provisional 7.5-minute quadrangle, 1985)."
The current Mindat map appears to show the mine to be North East of San Lorenzo !!!!
And yes I believe the photos to be of the same specimen.
And the locality to be the same.
Reiner, Georgetown is apparently a ghost town with no buildings - I believe the town ceased around the early 1900s.
Perhaps someone more familiar with New Mexico can update this.
Cheers
Keith
3rd Aug 2017 17:53 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager
merged
3rd Aug 2017 18:04 UTCReiner Mielke Expert OP
What did you merg Rob? I still see two separate localities?
3rd Aug 2017 18:04 UTCDon Saathoff Expert
The correct location is the "Copper Rose Mine, Georgetown District, Grant County, New Mexico".
Georgetown is a "ghost town". It was a major silver producer until the silver crash. The post office was closed in the '30s.
The mine is on private property and reclaimed. The townsite of Georgetown and some patented claims (notably the Commercial-Cramer) were recently purchased and a cabin resort was established. Google "Georgetown Cabins".
Multiple hundreds of roses were collected over the years, cleaned of the "clay" and marketed.
The loss of access to the dumps at the mines surrounding Georgetown is regrettable.
Don
Georgetown is a "ghost town". It was a major silver producer until the silver crash. The post office was closed in the '30s.
The mine is on private property and reclaimed. The townsite of Georgetown and some patented claims (notably the Commercial-Cramer) were recently purchased and a cabin resort was established. Google "Georgetown Cabins".
Multiple hundreds of roses were collected over the years, cleaned of the "clay" and marketed.
The loss of access to the dumps at the mines surrounding Georgetown is regrettable.
Don
3rd Aug 2017 18:44 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager
I merged the MinIds. They all come from the Copper Rose mine. I see that "Georgetown" has a bunch of Copper Rose photos. I'll add Don's comments and message people about their photos.
3rd Aug 2017 20:11 UTCPaul Brandes 🌟 Manager
Don Saathoff Wrote:
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> The loss of access to the dumps at the mines
> surrounding Georgetown is regrettable.
>
Indeed Don. It is sad that many of New Mexico's great collecting locations are slowly disappearing.
Thanks for clearing this up, Rob.
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> The loss of access to the dumps at the mines
> surrounding Georgetown is regrettable.
>
Indeed Don. It is sad that many of New Mexico's great collecting locations are slowly disappearing.
Thanks for clearing this up, Rob.
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