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- Mirabai Bush (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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American mindfulness advocate (BLP). This page is a highly promotional article which is probably an autobiography or written by a family member (given the creator's username), possibly making use of AI, and has been tagged for both of these things since last December. It would need fundamental rewriting to bring it up to an appropriate standard, and so I am asking for consensus to delete this per WP:TNT, or alternatively to WP:DRAFTIFY it outside the usual 90-day period (that is, if anyone has any time to clean it up).
I do not doubt the subject's notability, and am not nominating the article for deletion on notability grounds. Dionysodorus (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Helen Mukoro Idisi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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According to the sources I checked, this person was a fraudster who presented herself as an "author, politician, and legal consultant". It's strange that the Wikipedia article describes her that way. As she was a fraudster, many biographical details might be completely made up and are suspect. It is unlikely that this person will continue to be notable in any way; the case seems more appropriate for a news website only. WP:NOTNEWS WP:ONEEVENT JohnMizuki (talk) 23:53, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Comment: suffice it to say, I think this is the same subject as the first nomination in 2020 that ended in deletion. No opinion on the article itself at this time, but I do have this feeling that this is another one of those subjects where deletion might be best accompanied by a dose of salt should it come to that. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:08, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete not seeing any clear claim to notability that meets the notability guidelines or significant coverage here beyond being covered in the news for one event, which as the nominator highlights per guidelines on this, doesn't meet the threshold for a page. Especially given BLP policies and the high standard for BLP pages regarding any claims made being backed by reliable sources, I'm also concerned that there's a lot of information without proper sources (and one of the source links no longer works too). Greenleader(2) (talk) 05:53, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- Julia Carrie Wong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not appear to meet currently meet WP:GNG or WP:NJOURNALIST notability standards. While Wong has a commendable career writing for numerous outlets, nearly all of the sources in this article are articles by Wong, or podcast appearances by her, and the few reliable independent sources are routine business briefs (), and/or more about subjects Wong wrote about (e.g. Sophie Zhang(,) A WP:BEFORE check of Google News found no significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject, thus it appears it is at least too soon for a Wikipedia biography. And while there are around 100 incoming links, spot checking suggests most are merely reference links to articles Wong wrote in The Guardian or other newspapers. Notability is not inherited by writing for notable publications. --Animalparty! (talk) 00:51, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Neda Matian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NARTIST and WP:GNG Kqol • talk 23:01, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Charlotte Odusanya (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose draftifying because it is WP:TOOSOON to meet WP:NACTOR with regional roles, ensemble parts in tours, an American Idol appearance, and a forthcoming role in an off-Broadway run.
Considering redirect as an adt, but lacks a good target between Midnight (musical) and American Idol season 17 —BrechtBro (talk) 22:28, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete as WP:TOOSOON. Five years into her career, this musicals actress has never been on Broadway, let along won a Tony or similar, and there is no reason to believe, at this point, that she ever will. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:55, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- My reasoning for draftify is that it's possible that, if the new musical about to open is a hit, it could transfer or otherwise raise her profile. Your rationale is also sound. —BrechtBro (talk) 23:08, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Rebecca Simmonds (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting to In Clay, the only work for which she is know because it is WP:TOOSOON to meet WP:NCREATIVE. The awards are not well known enough to meet ANYBIO. —BrechtBro (talk) 17:01, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Redirect to In Clay per nom, except that the Offies are a real award, but it was, again, for In Clay. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Shana Merlin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet GNG or NACTOR, best source here directly about the subject is is a graf in Source 6. Sources 2 and 3 are interviews. —BrechtBro (talk) 15:24, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Merge into The Hideout Theatre. Nothing else she has done is encyclopedically noteworthy. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:35, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Myaap (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Myaap fails to meet Wikipedia's core notability requirements for biographies (WP:BIO) and musicians (WP:MUSICBIO). While the subject has achieved a degree of viral internet popularity and social media footprint primarily on TikTok, Wikipedia is not a directory for internet personalities or virality. Under WP:GNG (General Notability Guideline), a subject must have received significant, effective coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources that are completely separate from the subject.
A review of the sources currently cited—and an evaluation of the broader media landscape surrounding this subject—reveals a heavy reliance on:
- Primary social media profiles, self-released mixtapes, and digital distribution pages.
- Brief mentions or passing references in pop-culture blogs that essentially regurgitate social media metrics rather than providing substantive, independent journalistic scrutiny or profiles.
Temporary internet fame, viral dance trends, and streaming audio counts do not automatically translate to encyclopedia notability. Allowing this page to stand sets a precedent that any creator with a viral social media moment or trending audio snippet warrants a permanent encyclopedia entry, which directly violates Wikipedia's policy stating that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information (WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE). Because the subject fails to satisfy the rigorous threshold of independent reliable source coverage required for a biographical article, this page should be deleted. ~2026-47663-02 (talk) 23:58, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Completing nomination on behalf of TA nominator - above text was copied from the article talk page, lightly formatted by myself for readability. I have no opinion of my own at this time. --Finngall talk 15:59, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Celeste Katz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:JOURNALIST. Most of the sources are primary. No major awards or recognition in third party sources. LibStar (talk) 02:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete. I couldn't find anything in-depth in newspapers.com or elsewhere. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 05:41, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Shibani Joshi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:JOURNALIST. No sigcov about her or major recognition. Just a run of the mill journalist. LibStar (talk) 01:28, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete Some coverage , but not enough to show notability. Reads like a CV, simply confirming where they work. The "notability" seems to be around the things said about sunshine in America versus Germany, which is nothing notable and rather could be seen as shaming the individual. Oaktree b (talk) 14:14, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Helen Afang Andow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NPROF and WP:GNG Kqol • talk 22:44, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not enough citations for WP:PROF#C1 . Deputy VC position not enough for #C6. Bulleted and templated commands in recent draft creation by same editor suggest likely LLM use; WP:AINB may be needed. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:49, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing in the article to indicate that they are likely to make PROF, and a low h-index indicates that their research is not widely cited. Khalitate (talk) 05:52, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nomination. Nothing more. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:50, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Kazuko Sugiyama (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don't think that this page is notable enough for inclusion when looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people) and especially WP:CREATIVE. Furthermore, the sourcing does not seem to prove notability, with one source for the bio and the rest being for the (mostly unsourced) Filmography section. Equivalent-Text2598 (talk) 21:12, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep - Behind the Voice Actors confirms she voiceacted Celebi in Pokemon 4Ever, Anime News Network confirms she voiceacted Laura in Laura, the Prairie Girl, Behind the Voice Actors confirms she voiceacted Ten in Urusei Yatsura, Anime News Network confirms she voice acted Heidi in Heidi, Girl of the Alps, Jorudan confirms she played Mimiko in Panda! Go, Panda!, The Toho Studios Story (a published book) confirms she played Jun in Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, and Anime Characters Database confirms she voiceacted Ganmo in Gu Gu Ganmo. That's at least 7 main character roles in notable productions, which gets her through WP:NACTOR easily. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 23:25, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep. Was a check in Japanese performed before nomination? The Japanese Wikipedia article has 107 citations. I agree that there are a large number of protagonist roles in major series here. Mako in Mahō no Mako-chan, Laura in Laura, the Prairie Girl, arguably Akane in Dr. Slump and Ten in Urusei Yatsura, and especially Heidi in Heidi, Girl of the Alps are culturally significant. Here is an article about her participation in Heidi: News Post Seven. Here are two about Heidi and Urusei Yatsura that introduce her as a "legendary voice actress": , . Dekimasuよ! 03:04, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Keep per sources mentioned by @Jishara and @Dekimasu. Khalitate (talk) 05:56, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Tijana Ibrahimovic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sigcov or major awards to meet WP:JOURNALIST. LibStar (talk) 04:42, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Juliette Hohnen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most of the coverage makes reference to her notable husband Steven Weber. WP:NOTINHERITED applies here. Her journalism career doesn't meet WP:JOURNALIST. LibStar (talk) 02:24, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Heliza Helmi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Malaysian television personality (BLP). The sources are all trivial coverage, not amounting to the kind of sustained coverage required for WP:BASIC. Dionysodorus (talk) 22:09, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep There's plenty of sources. South China Morning Post, The Hive Asia, NST online,and manyothers. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 23:52, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Hawa Rizwana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Malaysian journalist (BLP). Sources all look trivial and/or promotional, although I cannot read Malay, and some of the sources do not seem to allow copying of text, so that I cannot run them through a translation device. However, I cannot see anything substantial enough that it could possibly count as sustained coverage of the kind required to satisfy WP:BASIC. Dionysodorus (talk) 21:45, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Wawa Zainal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Malaysian model (BLP). Sources do not amount to sustained coverage of the kind needed to meet WP:BASIC. Much of the information in this BLP is unsourced. Dionysodorus (talk) 21:48, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Antonia Medlicott (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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British journalist (BLP). This article was recently soft deleted, and then undeleted by the request of the page creator, who then put the draft through AfC, where it was accepted. However, as in the previous nomination, the sources are mostly passing mentions or work by the subject: it is not clear that there is sustained coverage of her in sources independent of her, as required for WP:BASIC. Dionysodorus (talk) 17:52, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Argjendora (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article in its current state fails GNG, and there is nothing to disambiguate here. Maayaaaaa (talk) 12:10, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:NNAME as there are no notable people with this name, and the only sources I could find for this name are dictionary definitions and generic, unreliable name websites, which are all WP:ROTM sources that fail WP:GNG. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 21:24, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Sarah John (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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British banker (BLP). As with Ben Stimson, I see no evidence that she meets WP:BASIC or any special notability criterion. Dionysodorus (talk) 14:55, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Nancy Armstrong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability has not been demonstrated for this living person. The only two cited references do not establish notability, as they are database entries. WP:NBLP WP:BLP Furthermore, the reference from Brown University does not support any of the claims in the article, despite beign the most cited source. I've checked the link on archive.org and previous versions of that page do not show any information about Nancy Armstrong. As it is, the article is largely unsourced. WP:BLPCITE JohnMizuki (talk) 10:07, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep she has held two named professorships and her Google scholar profile shows her works are widely cited. Mccapra (talk) 15:18, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:NPROF #5. Schazjmd (talk) 15:26, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Speedy keep WP:SK3. As well as the clear pass of WP:PROF#C5 discussed above, and the presidency of the Semiotic Society of America (#C6), I found and added to the article 26 published reviews of five books, giving her an easy pass of WP:AUTHOR. I searched only JSTOR so probably there are more elsewhere. Speedy because the nominator does not even consider WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR notability, and incorrectly focuses on cited references rather than the references that exist regardless of whether they are already cited. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:46, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Speedy keep per WP:PAG above - this one is procedural and automagic keep per that. Only way to change that outcome is to change notability standards. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 17:52, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. Multiple named professorships. We don't even need to consider anything else and this is a clear pass, although there are other things that support notability. AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 03:24, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Keep: clear pass of WP:PROF for multiple multiply-reviewed books. Could benefit from a "Selected publications" section. PamD 07:28, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Nancy Ellyn Bass (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article has existed for 18 months and shows no evidence of passing WP:GNG, although there is lots of online coverage in non-independent sources showing the subject is clearly an academic. She does not appear to pass WP:NACADEMIC as the article does not show any evidence of her holding a distinguished professorship or major award or to be a fellow of a distinguished society. Boynamedsue (talk) 08:35, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. No evidence of notability. Athel cb (talk) 09:00, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Zoe Flood (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Flood is clearly a working journalist but I could not find any indication that she has been the subject of significant third party coverage from independent sources. As of now, there is no case for her passing WP:GNG or WP:NJOURNALIST. Boynamedsue (talk) 07:32, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Riley Burruss (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject has appeared on one season of a reality show (Next Gen NYC) as a main cast member, and other than being the daughter of Kandi Burruss, making cameo appearances on The Real Housewives of Atlanta, where her mother appears, and having one music single that is not well sourced, she has not met Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Notability. Thewealthysocialite (talk) 03:46, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Per WP:ENT, a reality star is notable if they have “had significant roles in multiple notable films, notable television shows, stage performances, or other notable productions.” Burruss was a major cast member on The Real Housewives of Atlanta (for 54 episodes) and remains on the main cast of Next Gen NY, which is wrapping up its second season and has been renewed for a third. She is one of the major promotional faces of the series. She also has a single that has charted. Her page should not be deleted in my opinion. Tyler17B (talk) 01:16, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Like previously stated, Burruss has been on one reality show as a main cast member. and she has made cameo appearances on The Real Housewives of Atlanta due to her mother's personal involvement. She hasn't done much else in her career, and therefore should be deleted in my opinion. Thewealthysocialite (talk) 19:08, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- 54 episodes is not a cameo appearance, it constitutes a “significant role” sufficient for notability purposes. She carried major storylines on the series, including her strained relationship with her father, writing and producing her song, etc. She also headlines several panels at Bravocon, which itself meets WP’s notability criteria. Her song is available on all major streaming platforms and was a major storyline on RHOA. She is a main cast member on Next Gen NYC, which is one of Bravo’s highest-rated series and has been renewed for additional seasons.
- Are RHOA, Next Gen NYC, and BravoCon not notable? She is a major cast member on all 3 and per WP:ENT, that is sufficient to establish notability.
- As for her song, it was covered on RHOA, and it’s available on all major streaming platforms. If you feel it’s not well-sourced, I think the better solution would be to propose a better source rather than delete the entire article.
- There are also 26 citations from a variety of sources including People, Entertainment Weekly, Us Magazine, etc, which are all common sources for reality stars. (WP:WISC) Both GNG and SNG are met. Tyler17B (talk) 04:16, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Burruss was not a primary nor important cast member of the Atlanta Housewives, the show revolved around her mother and seven to eight other women. The 54 episodes you speak of are merely cameo appearances that stem from a two-minute on-screen FaceTime call, to a five minute scene involving her mother where she makes a moment appearance. Her participation was very limited, never having any storylines or green-screen interviews. Other former Housewives' children such as Gigi Hadid and Amelia Gray Hamlin also made appearances on the franchise, but it's not a catalyst in their rise to notoriety.
- She's appeared on one show as a main cast member, and that is all. The PR puffery regarding her family's success does not necessarily mean she meets notability guidelines. Articles from People, Entertainment Weekly, and Us Magazine, only speak to either her mother's success or her stint on Next Gen NYC. The BravoCon reference is no different. Hundreds of Bravo personalities attended, many of them who have appeared as primary cast members on their respective series, she is no different. Thewealthysocialite (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Like previously stated, Burruss has been on one reality show as a main cast member. and she has made cameo appearances on The Real Housewives of Atlanta due to her mother's personal involvement. She hasn't done much else in her career, and therefore should be deleted in my opinion. Thewealthysocialite (talk) 19:08, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Di Reed (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NMG and WP:GNG as a separate article as the article's references are mostly about her work with Jade. Lacks WP:SIGCOV for solo work. Delete or redirect to Jade_(group). Geoff | Who, me? 21:04, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep Doesn't fail WP:NMG, WP:GNG, or WP:SIGCOV with sources like Houston Chronicle, Bloomberg Law, AllMusic Credits (Dieyelle Reed), AllMusic Credits (Di Reed). Sackkid (talk) 01:52, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- These sources don't discuss Reed outside the context of Jade (and the AllMusic credits don't count for much either way), which is what we'd be looking for here. signed, Rosguill talk 02:02, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect unless coverage of Reed outside the context of Jade can be found. signed, Rosguill talk 02:03, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- LeanBeefPatty (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet GNG due to a lack of independent substantial coverage. Jahaza (talk) 18:21, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
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Non-notable pageant titleholder, fails WP:GNG { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 22:02, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:GNG. 🦅White-tailed eagleTalk to the eagleStalking eagle 23:43, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Heather Hogsett (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Run-of-the-mill businessperson. WP:BEFORE is failing to find WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. Edwardx (talk) 21:32, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
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I don't think this satisfies WP:GNG or WP:BIO. MadelynnSienna (talk) 16:00, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete Being a contestant on a reality show is insufficient in itself to establish notability; not seeing any other WP:SIGCOV. OhNoitsJamie talk 11:49, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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Sources used here are closely associated or just routine coverage. Also the article reads like a resume and highly promotional. A possible coi/paid. Violates WP:N and WP:NOTLINKEDIN. Rht bd (talk) 14:38, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep. I agree that the tone is promotional but: as rector of a major Ukrainian university, she is automatically notable under WP:NPROF.
Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable...The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
That bar is cleared. AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 16:01, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep per NPROF - she was a highest-level administrator (the rector) at the oldest continually-active university in Ukraine so automatic notability Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 17:33, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep. Makes NPROF. Khalitate (talk) 07:28, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Larissa Posner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Run-of-the-mill businessperson. WP:BEFORE is failing to find WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. Edwardx (talk) 10:47, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete. Coverage is insufficient for a standalone article, and pretty much the whole article having been created by a SPA isn't encouraging. Cortador (talk) 11:24, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. This was a mistake on my part. Agree with deletion. Apologies.--Ipigott (talk) 12:16, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment - Is the company StyleScan notable though? It has coverage in Forbes and Los Angeles Business Journal Ipigott. If so some of the information would be relevant in that article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:00, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- The Forbes article is a contributor piece and thus not reliable. Cortador (talk) 05:18, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment - Is the company StyleScan notable though? It has coverage in Forbes and Los Angeles Business Journal Ipigott. If so some of the information would be relevant in that article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:00, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Patricia Harty (journalist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Declined prod. Created by a single purpose editor. Fails WP:JOURNALIST and WP:AUTHOR. Almost all her google news hits are just articles by her magazine. LibStar (talk) 23:45, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. While, in my own WP:BEFORE, I was able to find and add a number of sources to support the article's text, I don't think they materially contribute to notability. As they don't appear to be independent. The existing sources (websites associated with the subject, articles written by the subject and ROTM Goodreads/Amazon listings for books associated with the subject) also don't really contribute to notability. It doesn't help, as noted by the nom, that this title was clearly created by a COI/SPA contributor. (This is compounded by fact that someone, perhaps the same author, also seems to have written other summary bios of the subject which are substantively the same and seemingly published on copyrighted websites - meaning this title is also potentially eligible for deletion under WP:G12....) Guliolopez (talk) 11:50, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Guliolopez. Some of the "awards" mentioned are completely non-notable, not meriting their own articles. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:54, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
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Fails WP:JOURNALIST. Almost all the google news hits are from her employer, KFYR-TV. No major awards or recognition. LibStar (talk) 04:31, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete – What LibStar said checks out. I do not see any independent reliable source coverage, let alone any significant coverage. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 16:33, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment: the first nomination from 2007 ended with "no consensus" at a time of far lower standards, and even at that was clarified by the then-nominator towards the end of the discussion window to be a proposal to merge to KFYR-TV and/or NBC North Dakota (at a time when AfD nominations were always assumed to be traditional deletion discussions, which only stopped being a safe assumption just months ago). I don't think a merger would be the right call here (it isn't really what we tend to do for non-notable TV anchors/journalists, and in any event this nomination is itself a traditional deletion discussion), but no opinion on anything more than that. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:20, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete: The best I could find was []. No indication of notability here under the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 01:10, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
- India Scandrick (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article lacks any proper citations, and does not appear to meet WP:GNG LincolnMagnus (talk) 00:30, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete Doesn't meet NACTOR. Biggest claim to notability as a child actor appears to be a stint as a replacement ten years into a Broadway run.—BrechtBro (talk) 02:11, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- @Bearian - asked to be pinged LincolnMagnus (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete - poorly sourced; a few external links to social media are not enough for a BLP. Ping me again if you add more. Bearian (talk) 17:07, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete her notability does not qualify WP:NACTOR. Dz5t 8O12 (talk) 22:32, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. Doesn't make NACTOR. Khalitate (talk) 07:17, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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Fails WP:JOURNALIST. A search in google news reveals almost entirely articles by her but no third party coverage about her. LibStar (talk) 00:49, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete - I worked with her and I apparently created this back in the Wikipedia Paleolithic but she doesn't meet current notability standards. TY for surfacing. jengod (talk) 02:10, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- I appreciate your honesty. Often article creators get defensive when their article is nominated for deletion. LibStar (talk) 03:02, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete - I worked with her and I apparently created this back in the Wikipedia Paleolithic but she doesn't meet current notability standards. TY for surfacing. jengod (talk) 02:10, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Kathryn Lyles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely fails WP:NACTOR, with no information being present about the subject. (It's possibly deserving of a Speedy Delete, but I don't know if that's possible given that my PROD nomination was objected) LincolnMagnus (talk) 00:17, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete - No indication of notability in any way. A WP:BEFORE search turns up nothing, the broadwayworld sources seem to be just databases (cannot contribute to notability) and I see no other sources. She only seems to have a few community performances and no major ones. No indication of meeting either WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Bungle491 (talk) 00:59, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't meet NACTOR with appearances in a few regional productions.—BrechtBro (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
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- @Bearian asked to be pinged LincolnMagnus (talk) 17:06, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete as google search yields no SIGCOV, fails WP:NACTOR. Dz5t 8O12 (talk) 22:33, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete I could argue that this could of been a candidate for speedy deletion A7 at its current state seeing as the article is literally just a short sentence (ie, just "Kathryn Lyles is an American stage actress.") which is then cited to just unreliable BroadwayWorld. To the nominator: the PROD wasn't really objected, but rather procedurally removed seeing as it has been PRODed before. This is why its vital to check the history seeing if it has nominated for PROD or AFD in the past for the PROD to be successful. On the page history, it mentions 'PROD' three times in 2006 JuniperChill (talk) 19:22, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. Doesn't make NACTOR. Khalitate (talk) 07:18, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- In my slight defense the revisions from 2006 are not even on the first page of the article's revision history LincolnMagnus (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Mariam de Bagration (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article's significance is not shown. The article provides genealogical information only. RobertVikman (talk) 09:11, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep if more sources can be found; if not, redirect to father’s page rather than delete. Velociraptor888 (talk) 15:11, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Why are you advocating for keeping the article if it doesn't meet any criteria for significance and is made up of sources that don't relate to her at all? RobertVikman (talk) 20:31, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
- Libe Goad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Whilst it looks like a lot of sources, I don't believe there's sigcov or major awards (one of the 50 Most Influential Games Journalists by Next-Generation doesn't seem major) to meet WP:JOURNALIST. Most of the google news hits are articles by her or passing mentions. LibStar (talk) 05:43, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Go D. Usopp (talk) 03:01, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- Shane Evans (businesswoman) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources are not independent. Closely connected, PR, sponsored or self published. Rht bd (talk) 01:59, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Comment: this has been tagged as a potential NBIO failure since 2023. (No opinion.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:33, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails WP:NBIO and WP:GNG. Madeleine (talk) 12:53, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Of the thirteen credits listed only one has an article Ije Awele so the test of significant roles in multiple notable productions is not met. Fourteen of the forty-six citations are IMDb among the national-press items, five are interviews with the subject, eight belong to the release publicity for that single film, and the remainder are red-carpet notices. Both awards named in the lead are finalist placings rather than wins. Kqol • talk 21:21, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Comment. Possibly passes WP:NACTRESS. She has some critical reviews of her films in the reliable mainstream press in Nigeria. I know WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA is an issue, but if we limit the sourcing to the mainstream media recommended in the BBC Nigeria media guide there are critical reviews of her work as a leading actress in Nigerian films in doing a quick before. For example . The fact that our coverage of notable Nigerian films is bad on the English wiki is not evidence that the actress fails NACTRESS. Some of the logic in the nomination reads like WP:SYSTEMICBIAS21:41, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to Ije Awele, a movie in which she had a lead role. Searching for sources about her, I found this and this, but they read as promotional, probably due to WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA. She is not notable under WP:NACTRESS, because she had a role in only one blue-linked movie. Kelob2678 (talk) 18:26, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
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Possibile non notable actress. Only primary sources were found. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 20:14, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete - poorly sourced; one good citation is not enough for a BLP. Ping me if you add more. Bearian (talk) 01:21, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Isolmant–Premac–Vittoria (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No secondary sources are present to show notability under the WP:GNG. PROD was removed with an unclear rationale so bringing this to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 14:46, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
Comment: There are at least three sources, so arguably it's notable. I am not familiar with women's bicycling racing to determine whether it is actually notable. In any case, nowadays anything dealing with women's sports is controversial, at least in the United States, so prodding women's sports teams should be discussed at AFD. Bearian (talk) 15:00, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- None of the sources are about the team itself. Let'srun (talk) 15:16, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep Notable professional team. Seacactus 13 (talk) 16:17, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
- Which sources show notability? Let'srun (talk) 21:54, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Debbie Young (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This blp about a novelist is sourced only to her publisher's website, information from a literary festival she set up, and an article about the literary festival which does not mention her. I have looked for other coverage in reliable sources and not found it. I don't think she meets WP:GNG or WP:NAUTHOR. No strong redirect target; Hawkesbury Upton#Hawkesbury Upton Literature Festival is a possibility, but could be confusing for the reader. Tacyarg (talk) 11:08, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- A number of additional external links have been added to third-party sources to verify and endorse her inclusion, and the link to the literary festival redirected to a different page which does cite her. HawkesburyScribe (talk) 11:55, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- We need things that show critical notice of her work, book reviews, a NY Times bestseller, that sort of thing. We don't have anything that can show inclusion. Oaktree b (talk) 13:20, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- A number of additional external links have been added to third-party sources to verify and endorse her inclusion, and the link to the literary festival redirected to a different page which does cite her. HawkesburyScribe (talk) 11:55, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete All links are either primary or could be seen as PROMO; I don't see a pass at AUTHOR with no critical reviews found. Oaktree b (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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Current article and refences don't pass WP:NACTOR and a WP:BEFORE search didn't bring up any other notable info or sources. Suonii180 (talk) 09:37, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Comment, previous deletion discussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gloria Alexandra, not clear if it's the same person and there was no mention of it on the talk page. Suonii180 (talk) 09:39, 25 August 2026 (UTC).
- The article from the previous discussion was created by the same user so it will most likely be for the same person. Suonii180 (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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Declined prod. Based on primary sources. Fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:PROF. LibStar (talk) 00:51, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Comment. Close to passing WP:NAUTHOR. Burial for a King is clearly notable, with at least six reviews in reliable sources. I've only been able to find one review of Rage in the Gate City, but it has been cited repeatedly in scholarly texts. pburka (talk) 16:26, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Weak keep based on what's available in terms of NAUTHOR. As usual, I prefer to have the sources added. Bearian (talk) 22:24, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep. The author's wesbite includes quotes from two additional reviews of Rage in the Gate City (in The Sunday Paper (Atlanta), and in Metro Spirit (Augusta)). I can't find these on-line anywhere, but I don't doubt that they exist. Taken together with the reviews already in the article, she passes WP:NAUTHOR as the creator of a notable body of work. pburka (talk) 21:22, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Lisa Lage (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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She competed in American youth climbing championships when it was in its infancy, but never established a career or profile as a notable competition climber. She has almost no notability, and certainly no WP:SIGCOV pieces in the genaral climbing media and sources that I can find, and would thus fail WP:NCLIMBER. Her climbing career is long over so I can't see her improving her climbing notability from here and thus I think her BLP will not last on Wikipedia. Aszx5000 (talk) 20:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete, no notable achievements in competitions for children. Geschichte (talk) 03:33, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Delete for lack of SIGCOV. Khalitate (talk) 05:46, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Amy Sacco (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nothing in the article suggests that Sacco has any notability independent of Bungalow 8, and we already cover that topic. A pointless stub, which is in any case devoid of significant biographical detail. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:33, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep Pretty solid coverage from 2006-2012, that would meet notability. Also this from 2008 . Known for the socialite scene in and around New York. Article should of course be expanded. Oaktree b (talk) 13:50, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BhikhariInformer 📮 (Ping me or else I won't see it) 16:09, 31 August 2026 (UTC)- Keep - She has a full profile in the New York Times, and a ton of other coverage for years upon years. For example, Hollywood Reporter, The Observer, W Mag, a paywalled NY Magazine, Haute Living, CBS, etc etc. She's still notable too - an article popped up literally 3 days ago from Vanity Fair that, while emphasizing Bungalow 8, also has sigcov on Sacco. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 23:34, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- The 'Observer' you link is a website which states that it "works with our partners to extend the reach of your brand’s message to our affluent, educated, urban audience. From custom content features to dedicated emails to engaging video and turnkey events, we will work together to create a tailored solution and message to meet your marketing goals" rather than the distinguished newspaper of the same name. Clearly not a source we'd cite for anything of significance. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Makes sense - I assumed it was the newspaper of that name, i guess it isn't. Still, my vote remains unchanged - NYT, Hollywood Reporter, W, NY Mag, Haute Living, CBS. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 01:32, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- The 'Observer' you link is a website which states that it "works with our partners to extend the reach of your brand’s message to our affluent, educated, urban audience. From custom content features to dedicated emails to engaging video and turnkey events, we will work together to create a tailored solution and message to meet your marketing goals" rather than the distinguished newspaper of the same name. Clearly not a source we'd cite for anything of significance. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Keep. The coverage in NYT, The Guardian, The Independent, CBS is more than enough to make GNG and BIO. Khalitate (talk) 06:07, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Keep - She has a full profile in the New York Times, and a ton of other coverage for years upon years. For example, Hollywood Reporter, The Observer, W Mag, a paywalled NY Magazine, Haute Living, CBS, etc etc. She's still notable too - an article popped up literally 3 days ago from Vanity Fair that, while emphasizing Bungalow 8, also has sigcov on Sacco. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 23:34, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Alexandra Kiesel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged as possibly not meeting GNG. Despite being accepted in AFC, there are presumably NPOV issues as well. Beta Beta Beta - talk 06:45, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not notable. Seven of the sources are about one show. Bearian (talk) 14:18, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Margaret Bhatty (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails NAUTHOR and GNG. Jerod Lycett (talk) 07:17, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Weak keep based on what's available. The minimum effort for a deceased person is to look for reviews. Bearian (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Yep, and the WP:BEFORE I did shows a failure to pass notability requirements to have an article. Jerod Lycett (talk) 15:44, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- weak keep This or this , is about all there is that I find. Might be more in Indian sources. Oaktree b (talk) 15:52, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Marci Hopkins (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not seeing enough independent secondary coverage to meet WP:NBASIC. I tried looking for sources when I proposed this article for deletion in February, and I still can't find much more than is already cited. I tried searching Google, Google News, Google Books, and Google Scholar. There are many promo pieces in various sources (like a WP:FORBESCON piece), and marginal pieces like this interview on New Jersey Family, but not independent. It is also likely that the article was created and updated with WP:UPE involvement. Dreamyshade (talk) 20:32, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
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Info - Note on soft closure: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion or merging depending on the nomination, at the end of its 7-day listing.
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- Delete - we are not LinkedIn. This is lacking good sources, and, as I've written before, "Forbes is a crust of a shell of a carcass of a formerly reliable source." However, if you add better sources, please ping me again, and I'll reconsider. 01:13, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Maria Nosulia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE & WP:GNG. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:10, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Comment. The article claims she won world gold in 2012. If she really was the winner of Junior World Figure Skating Championship 2012 (and there had been a reliable source confirming that), I would certainly vote "keep": per WP:NSKATE World Junior Figure Skating champions are considered notable. However, I cannot find any source confirming she was indeed the junior world champion that year; instead of that, Sportonline article indicates she took the 8th place with her partner. If anybody finds more sources, please ping me. Jean Mélenchon (talk) 15:46, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, that statement is completely inaccurate. They never won the World Junior Championships. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment. The article claims she won world gold in 2012. If she really was the winner of Junior World Figure Skating Championship 2012 (and there had been a reliable source confirming that), I would certainly vote "keep": per WP:NSKATE World Junior Figure Skating champions are considered notable. However, I cannot find any source confirming she was indeed the junior world champion that year; instead of that, Sportonline article indicates she took the 8th place with her partner. If anybody finds more sources, please ping me. Jean Mélenchon (talk) 15:46, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Born To Win–Zhiraf–G20 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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(Former?) professional cycling team, article not updated since 2023. Notability per WP:GNG is not apparent from the article (which cites only a primary source) or a Google search. Google News has zero hits for them, and the best I was able to find is a two-paragraph description in what looks like a cycling blog of unclear reliability. Sandstein 08:08, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete: Subject lacks the coverage to meet the WP:GNG. The only sources currently in the article are primary to the governing body this team competes under and a search for sources elsewhere didn't reveal anything of note. Let'srun (talk) 22:00, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep from a quick look on the French Wikipedia page I've found and which both have a reasonable amount of info on the team. Although looks like the team is now called 'Born to Win BTC City Ljubljana' which would partially explain why it's hard to find sources under the current page's name. PeteFromLeeds (talk) 20:57, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Iona McLeish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I could find no reliable secondary sources to support notability. Lexiconaut (talk) 03:53, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
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Delete- Fails WP:GNG after a WP:BEFORE search. She's participated in quite a few movies with articles but otherwise has no coverage of herself -- any article with about the subject would probably require significant WP:OR. Bungle491 (talk) 05:14, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Changing my !vote to draftify or keep and revert to the stub. Seeing BrechtBro's review, I think the article does have potential. However, I also worry that draftifying the article may just result in WP:G13 speedy deletion if no one works on the article. Bungle491 (talk) 22:02, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete As it is currently written, it does not appear to be a suitable BLP article. ~2026-45862-52 (talk) 05:35, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Draftify. What a mess. I can't tell if there is anything notable here. I tried to do some clean-up, but still a huge mess. The reader cannot even tell what she designed. Was it always costumes, or sometimes sets? Or what? This was a simple and promising stub a week ago, and then someone came along and added all this barely cited stuff. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:42, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Draftify or weak keep Sources exist. Recent low quality additions to the article have been from an account with edits only to this article, these muddle the waters and perhaps the article should be reverted. Old versions make a clearer case for notability clearer, before the article was completely stubified (bad form imo, credits are often readily verifiable and are not contentious). There's 33 hits in the British Newspaper Archive covering her design work from the late 70s to early 90s in The Stage, and some more recent reviews in other papers available in a Google search. The Love of the Nightingale, for example, was reviewed in The Guardian, almost surely quite a few more reviews that cover her body of work in in other archives. I find the WP:NCREATIVE standard, which she may meet, difficult to apply to freelance stage designers.—BrechtBro (talk) 17:43, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Nom here. Having read the comments above and taken a look at previous versions I think that reverting it to the last version in 2022 () may be a solution. Definitely needs work and that version is poorly referenced, but it is cleaner than the version that existed when I submitted the AfD. IMO moving existing articles to draft space doesn't help much unless editors step up and commit to working on it. People are more likely to see it and improve it in main space than in draft space where articles go to die (remember the old incubator?!!). --Lexiconaut (talk) 23:44, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- A fair point, particularly considering none of us discussing it have jumped to work on the article. It's slightly cleaner now so maybe a total revert isn't necessary, it can be given the appropriate maintenence tags. I'm willing to add some better sources but I'd prefer some clearer opinions on notability before I do that, being on the weak side myself. —BrechtBro (talk) 02:16, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- I would be happy with reverting to an earlier version with, perhaps, the most encyclopedic newer sources retained. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:08, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Maral Torkaman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Similar case than Roghaye Someh. Played futsal as a child, but fails in WP:GNG / WP:YOUNGATH. Svartner (talk) 15:17, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 08:39, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:NBIO. 🦅White-tailed eagleTalk to the eagleStalking eagle 17:57, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. Doesn't make BIO. Khalitate (talk) 07:21, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Mary Aloe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability is not inherited. She fails on her own and barely gets a trivial mention in a list of producers, if that, on the projects that are notable. Jerod Lycett (talk) 05:49, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
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Delete — I’m fairly new to editing Wikipedia, so I may not have all of the process language exactly right, but after looking more closely at the sourcing, I agree this article should be deleted.
The nomination says that Mary Aloe “barely gets a trivial mention” and that her notability is inherited from the films she worked on. I found several sources that seem to go beyond that.
For example, Script Magazine published a full interview/profile of Aloe in 2021 that discusses her career, producing work, film financing, development, and Aloe Entertainment:
https://scriptmag.com/interviews-features/mary-aloe-producer-and-founder-of-aloe-entertainment
Esquire also published substantial coverage of Aloe in its 2014 feature “The Greatest Story Never Told.” That article includes a section specifically about Aloe and discusses her involvement in acquiring and developing the Benedict Fitzgerald screenplay:
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/interviews/a23749/the-greatest-story-never-told-0814/
More recently, Deadline Hollywood reported in 2023 on Aloe being named head of feature films at Partners in Kind and included background on her career in producing and film financing:
That seems to me like significant independent coverage of Aloe herself across many years, not just mentions in credits for notable films.
I also went through the article and removed a lot of unsourced and promotional material, replaced weak sources where possible, and added stronger independent sources. The article may still need improvement, even based on the sources above. ~2026-45470-71 (talk) 21:28, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- The first and last are interviews, which are not independent, and do not contribute to notability. The third one is again just trivial coverage. So we're left with a single source that could be used. We require significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable sources to establish notability. Jerod Lycett (talk) 01:58, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Jessica Brillhart (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Borderline notability in my opinion. MIT and LA Times coverages are ok, but not all that. I would like to nomimate this for community review. MitYehor📘^talk 17:23, 13 August 2026 (UTC)
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- delete this article,motion to delete seconded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-31352-02 (talk)
- Weak keep based on what's available and no clear policy basis for deletion. Ping me if you analyze the references. Bearian (talk) 21:19, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment: Looks like she was on the show On the Lot and got a bit of coverage for that. Her short for the competition got a review from Variety as well. This could probably push her a bit more easily into notability territory. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:09, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Looks like she also goes under "Jess Brillhart". ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:18, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- There's a mention of her in this MDPI journal where a footnote says "Jess Brillhart’s (2016) piece in the DeepDream show also makes use of virtual reality which, while not neural, represents an important advance in both cameras and displays." ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:41, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- There's also an interview here, which mentions her spearheading "numberous award-winning shorts and documentaries" while at Google's Creative Lab. She's also namedropped in a few places like here (snippet view only so I can't see how in-depth it is). There's a bit of a writeup here about her as well. It looks like she is certainly well thought of in her area, which is still pretty niche. This Wrap article about her being a keynote speaker at SXSW 2019 also gives some info. I'm leaning towards her being notable, just not as well covered as some of the other creatives out there. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:47, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Her work has been promoted by South by Southwest for what it's worth. Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:55, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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- weak keep very weak, but she also has an h-index , while not a pass at SCHOLAR, implies some critical notice of her work. With the other sources, I think it's fine. Oaktree b (talk) 21:31, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment some coverage from France . Oaktree b (talk) 21:33, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Laura Newburgh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A page on an associate professor who does not appear to pass WP:NPROF. One of many pages of academics at Yale created by another academic in the same department (who is currently blocked from page creation). Page was "reviewed" by an editor whose reviews have all been reverted for cause, so now is time to reconsider. While her citation record is fairly high, all the papers appear to be team efforts and I cannot find anything that convinces me that she has done work that make her personally notable. No major awards beyond a share of a team prize. Ldm1954 (talk) 22:35, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Weak delete. With h = 67 her Google Scholar profile is very respectable at first sight. However, as mentioned above, in most of her well cited work she is one member of a large team. For example, in her most highly cited paper she has 147 coauthors, if I have counted correctly. I would want to see more evidence of personal achievements to feel comfortable with keeping this article. Athel cb (talk) 10:10, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Weak keep. The large group collaborations in this field make this a challenge. Beyond the publications with large author teams, which clearly inflate her h-index, she has a lead author publication with high citation counts (2016 paper, 394 citations), she also been on two shared awards (the Buchalter prize and the Berkeley prize). DaffodilOcean (talk) 02:38, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Weak keep based on what's available, and that women in STEM have to work twice as hard to get tenure, much less at Yale University. Bearian (talk) 15:17, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Weak delete I agree this is a close call, but it seems there should be a clear standard for notability (which there is) for academics/professors, and she appears to fall short at this time. The category would be open to likely hundreds of others who are at similar stages of her career if the bar were to be lowered per the comments and nominations above. That said, there’s little doubt she will in the future cross that threshold as she continues in her academic career. Close call, but delete is the appropriate action at this point in time. Go4thProsper (talk) 14:47, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Prudence Nyamishana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NAUTHOR google search shows independent coverage to establish notability is lacking. The DW source provided herein shows this may have future potential but there is a lack of other sources to support that. Czarking0 (talk) 14:41, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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- @Czarking0 I thank you for raising this and i have to jump in this discussion to confirm that this page should not be deleted. This is because the article in question has reference from reliable sources and qualifies to stay on English Wikipedia since it can be improved overtime. Emma Oruk (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Georgia Davies (musician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don't think this article fails WP:GNG WP:BANDMEMBER, and WP:SIGCOV. Octaviyanti Dwi Wahyurini (talk) 12:14, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
Bundled nomination for redirection and draftification (not deletion) to The Last Dinner Party:
- Lizzie Mayland - Due to their solo work, Mayland's individual page may not meet the threshold for deletion ThatAltair (talk) 06:07, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Abigail Morris (musician)
Emily Roberts
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- Keep Emily Roberts, based on the article which shows notability independent of the group. Neutral on the others. --Northernhenge (talk) 08:33, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs more discussion....
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BhikhariInformer 📮 (Ping me or else I won't see it) 15:06, 26 August 2026 (UTC)- Keep Lizzie Mayland and Emily Roberts - unsure about Morris and Davies, not sure they have enough Sigcov. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 02:37, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep Emily Roberts; Neutral on the others Chaiten1 (talk) 07:37, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep Emily Roberts, as per Northernhenge above, independently notable. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:58, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment. I have closed Emily Roberts as keep. We now need some more input on the others. A redirect outcome can be inferred from the above opinions, though. I question the need for draftification as mentioned by the nominator. Geschichte (talk) 06:39, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- Aldona Kmiec (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete. I am Aldona Kmieć, the subject of this article and its original creator (User:Aldonak), and I am disclosing my conflict of interest. I created the article about myself in 2018 before I understood Wikipedia's autobiography and conflict-of-interest guidelines.
The previous AfD in 2018 closed as "no consensus". I do not believe the available sourcing demonstrates sufficient significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent secondary sources to establish notability for a standalone biography. Much of the available coverage relates to individual exhibitions, artist profiles, organisational pages and primary sources rather than substantial independent biographical coverage.
As the living subject, I support deletion and ask editors also to consider the BLP guidance concerning relatively low-profile subjects who request deletion. Aston (talk) 22:47, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: Visual arts and Photography. Aston (talk) 22:47, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Australia. Shellwood (talk) 23:21, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Weak keepI respect the decision of Aldonak to ask for a deletion because she herself worked on this article. I have searched some sources and find that her work has been reviewed in art news media independent of her and her photos are in the State Library of Victoria, a government collecting institution. I think there is possibly just enough coverage and awards for her work to justify a standalone article. I would like another editor to take this on as I have a backlog of work on Australian women artists. Potentially another editor would have to pay special attention to the statements written by Aldonak and re-write them and add citations. However if this artist really wants the article to be removed entirely, we should respect that as well.LPascal (talk) 07:11, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, LPascal. I appreciate your thoughtful response.
- I have maintained an active professional art practice in UK (2006-2009) and Australia since migrating here in 2009, and I am currently one of the resident artists at Montsalvat, a historic arts institution in Melbourne. I understand that there may be independent sources documenting my work and career, including some that I may not be aware of.
- However, I do not feel comfortable having a Wikipedia article that I originally created and contributed to myself, particularly as at the time I did not understand Wikipedia's policies regarding autobiography and conflict of interest.
- For that reason, I would be very happy for the article to be deleted entirely. If, at some point in the future, independent editors consider that there is sufficient independent coverage to justify a new article about my work, I would of course respect that decision. I would simply prefer not to be involved in writing or maintaining a Wikipedia biography about myself.
- Thank you again for taking the time to consider my request. Aston (talk) 12:46, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 23:55, 25 August 2026 (UTC) - @Aldonak, were you responsible for this edit that removed all of the references in March 2025? SenshiSun (talk) 00:34, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. The sourcing wasn't good enough in 2018 and no one has presented anything better since then. Having been represented in a touring exhibition presented by the state library of Victoria does not meet NARTIST. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:28, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete - poorly sourced; one book and a couple of external links are not enough for a BLP. Also, autobiographies are disfavored because they almost always have original content, but now, powerful interests from Palm Beach want to find any excuse to yank our charitable status. Bearian (talk) 01:38, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete. I see no reason to keep a page on a borderline notable person when the subject of the article wrote it, and is now asking to delete it.4meter4 (talk) 03:48, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
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- Caroline Torosis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Requested at the Teahouse. Request reads:
The page Caroline Torosis is very promotional and not notable. She is a city council member who gets to be honorary mayor for a year, as do all city council members. The page is clearly emphasizing the honorary position and not that she works full time for one of LA’s district supervisors.. not an expert so need help.. ~2026-45286-26 (talk) 20:13, 18 August 2026 (UTC) (55 min. ago)
--ABx11 (she/they) 21:11, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, and California. Shellwood (talk) 21:17, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep She is the mayor of a well known city with a population of nearly 100,000 people and the article seems to me to be neutrally written and well referenced. I was easily able to find additional coverage of her in reliable sources. If the temporary account can point out non-neutral phrasing, the article can be edited to improve the neutrality instead of deleting it. Press coverage pays more attention to her role on the city council and as mayor than her job as an aide to a Los Angeles County supervisor, and therefore so too should her Wikipedia biography. Cullen328 (talk) 23:38, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep The arguments against involving other mayors are WP:OTHERSTUFF. The notability is present for an article to exist and it's existence is not a detriment or a disruption to the encyclopedia as a whole. DarmaniLink (talk) 20:16, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment I nominated her for primarily for failing WP:NPOL and WP:GNG.Caroline Torosis is a Santa Monica City Council member (elected 2022) who previously served on the Rent Control Board. The “mayor” title is a one-year rotating position selected by the council based on seniority (longest continuous service, with vote totals as a tiebreaker for those elected in the same cycle), not a separately elected strong-mayor office with independent executive authority. Santa Monica operates under a council-manager form of government; the mayor mainly presides over meetings and serves in a largely ceremonial/head-of-city role. The city’s population is approximately 93,000 (2020 census). WP:NPOL is clear: politicians who have held international, national, or state/province-wide office are presumed notable, and “major local political figures who have received significant press coverage” may be. However, “Just being an elected local official… does not guarantee notability,” although such people can still qualify under the general notability guideline (GNG) if they have significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Routine local election results, council votes, city meeting coverage, and local-government reporting do not establish this. Most sources in the article (and easily findable coverage) are local outlets such as the Santa Monica Daily Press, Santa Monica Lookout, city/YouTube records of meetings, and similar pieces about her election, swearing-in, housing votes, or routine city business. These are expected for any council member in a city of this size and do not constitute the in-depth, independent biographical treatment GNG requires. Minor local awards or selection for a fellowship do not bridge the gap. The article leads heavily with the temporary mayor title and under-emphasizes that this is a standard council rotation and that her other professional role is as a policy director for an LA County supervisor.City council members (and rotating mayors) of mid-sized U.S. cities routinely lack standalone articles unless they have demonstrated broader impact or sustained non-routine coverage. Creating an article primarily because someone currently holds the rotating chair is not consistent with policy; the content can be covered on the Santa Monica or Santa Monica City Council pages if needed.
~2026-45286-26 (talk) 23:49, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. As the nomination explanation said, her position as "mayor" is a rotating position that city councilmembers hold, and with very limited powers. This is a city with a population under 100K run under a council-manager system. I can recall several recent past deletion discussions where the consensus was that serving as mayor in those circumstances fails to adequately establish notability, and she certainly fails NPOL in any event. As written, the article primarily cites local news outlets that provide information about the subject only tangentially, i.e., without a focus on her biography. Deleting absolutely makes sense here. PA Uploader (talk) 12:44, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- The article says she first was "mayor pro tempore" for a year, and now is just mayor. Are these both honorary positions or what exactly is the situation? -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 13:35, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Maddy from Celeste, per the Santa Monica City Council website:
The Santa Monica City Council is made up of seven members elected at-large for staggered four-year terms. Every two years, after each election, the City Council selects one of its members to serve as Mayor and another to serve as Mayor Pro Tempore.
PA Uploader (talk) 15:05, 19 August 2026 (UTC)- I also read the rules of order on that website. It seems like the mayor pro tempore is essentially a vice-chair of the council, but freely elected as opposed to the mayor? In that case, agree that there's no presumption of notability per NPOL. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 19:43, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- They are both honorary city council positions that go to the most senior council member who hasn’t been mayor. They chose them every two years, one become the mayor for a year and the other is “the mayor in waiting” until they become mayor next year. Basically they get to lead the city council discussions and still make the same $18k a year regular city council members make. The city council members aren’t full time employees. ~2026-45286-26 (talk) 21:59, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- I also read the rules of order on that website. It seems like the mayor pro tempore is essentially a vice-chair of the council, but freely elected as opposed to the mayor? In that case, agree that there's no presumption of notability per NPOL. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 19:43, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Maddy from Celeste, per the Santa Monica City Council website:
Comment: Since I created the nomination, even though it was on behalf of someone else, am I free to vote or does my nomination count on my behalf? --ABx11 (she/they) 19:09, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- I am not voting because I put it in the tea house so you can vote imo. ~2026-45658-57 (talk) 22:14, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Strong keep. For full disclosure, I am a significant contributor to this article. The subject very clearly meets WP:N and WP:BASIC. Torosis has received WP:SIGCOV in reliable sources WP:RS, including the LA Times, the Los Angeles Business Journal, MSN, the Santa Monica Daily Press, and others. Some prior commenters have criticized the Daily Press for being a "local" paper, but its circulation and readership show that it is a significant news source (see ). In the media landscape of Los Angeles, it's not possible for the LA Times and national news to cover events in large LA-area cities like Santa Monica. I will try to add more news coverage to the article. Notecardforfree (talk) 20:28, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Can you point to the articles of significant coverage that cover her life or activities outside being a city council or rent control board member? I couldn’t find anything but city council coverage and WP:POLITIAN says no local politicians so those opinions and coverage shouldn’t count. ~2026-45286-26 (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- WP:POLITICIAN doesn't say that you need sources that discuss a person outside politics. That notability guideline just says that a person isn't presumed to be notable just because they are involved in local politics (state-level politicians, by contrast, are presumed to be notable). Indeed, the whole point is that a local politician can be notable per WP:N and WP:SIGCOV if they have "received significant press coverage" of their work in local politics. And that's exactly the case with Torosis. Here are a few examples of the significant coverage (all of these are cited in her article):
- Can you point to the articles of significant coverage that cover her life or activities outside being a city council or rent control board member? I couldn’t find anything but city council coverage and WP:POLITIAN says no local politicians so those opinions and coverage shouldn’t count. ~2026-45286-26 (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Canyon News (full profile)
- MSN (full article discussing her and councilmember Jesse Zwick)
- Fox News (full article discussing her and the mayoral transition)
- Santa Monica Daily Press (full profile)
- Santa Monica Daily Press (an earlier profile of her and another commissioner when she was on the Santa Monica Rent Board)
- Another Santa Monica Daily Press profile (this one about her 2026 state of the city address)
- Los Angeles Business Journal (short profile)
- Patch News (several paragraphs profiling Torosis)
- Santa Monica Lookout (profile comparing Torosis to prior mayor)
- I think all these sources satisfy the WP:100WORDS principle. A google search will show other examples. The text in footnote 8 in the guidelines for local politicians in WP:POLITICIAN says gives an example of a local politician who meets the WP:N: "A politician who has received 'significant press coverage' has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists." The articles cited above show that Caroline Torosis clearly meets this standard. Notecardforfree (talk) 04:39, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment: The sources presented above do not resolve the general notability issue. Most are local reports about Torosis becoming mayor for a one-year term—the same type of routine transition announcement published whenever Santa Monica installs a new mayor. Although being local does not automatically disqualify a source, these articles principally verify her title and succession; they do not provide the substantial, subject-focused analysis required to demonstrate significant coverage. Routine announcements, brief mentions, quotations, awards, and coverage of City Council actions are not equivalent to in-depth coverage of Torosis herself.
- MSN item does not constitute an additional independent source because it is a republication of an article from the Westside Current, a small local publication. Republishing the same underlying reporting does not create a second independent source for the purpose of establishing notability. The only clearly substantial coverage centered on Torosis appears to concern the Ocean Avenue housing controversy and questions about her prior knowledge—yet that controversy is largely absent from the article. Even that coverage is associated with a single local controversy rather than sustained, independent coverage of her broader career. The sources presented establish that she holds local office, but they do not establish standalone biographical notability under the general notability guideline or the notability guideline for politicians. Delete or redirect to Santa Monica City Council or MERGE to a page about the position of Mayor of Santa Monica would be more appropriate in my opinion but I’m not voting. ~2026-45658-57 (talk) 22:13, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment: The quality of those sources, and the level of coverage they provide, is typical of virtually any mayor of a city with a population of more than 50,000 almost anywhere in America. My read of these deletion discussions is that we've been very careful about extending too far into municipal officials because there are just so many of them, and very, very few of them attract meaningful coverage. I am still voting to delete. PA Uploader (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Honorary position, local coverage, only additional notability is locally covered scandals having to do with her position on the city council. ~2026-45658-57 (talk) 21:26, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Reply to IP 2026-45658-57 and @PA Uploader:: The sources cited above (and the sources cited in the article) very clearly discuss a range of topics related to Torosis’ tenure as mayor. They are not just routine announcements. The sources show that she has been
“written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists”
(quoting WP:POLITICIAN). Indeed, they discuss in depth her policies, goals, experiences, history, and future ambitions. This establishes notability per WP:POLITICIAN and WP:SIGCOV. It sounds like you both would like a more restrictive notability standard for local politicians, and that’s fine, but that discussion should be had at the WP:BIO talkpage, not here.
- Reply to IP 2026-45658-57 and @PA Uploader:: The sources cited above (and the sources cited in the article) very clearly discuss a range of topics related to Torosis’ tenure as mayor. They are not just routine announcements. The sources show that she has been
- Comment: The quality of those sources, and the level of coverage they provide, is typical of virtually any mayor of a city with a population of more than 50,000 almost anywhere in America. My read of these deletion discussions is that we've been very careful about extending too far into municipal officials because there are just so many of them, and very, very few of them attract meaningful coverage. I am still voting to delete. PA Uploader (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- There are hundreds of Wikipedia articles about politicians with similar (and in some cases much less) coverage from comparable cities. Check out "Category:California city council members." To give just a handful of specific examples, see Konstantine Anthony (Burbank); Bill Cole (Montana politician) (Billings, MT); Victor Gordo (Pasadena); Adena Ishii (Berkeley); Eduardo Martinez (politician) (Richmond); Sharona Nazarian (Beverly Hills); Will O'Neill (politician) (Newport Beach); Skylar Peak (Malibu); Eric J. Perrodin (Compton); Albert Robles (Carson); Helene Schneider (Santa Barbara); Danny Tabor (Inglewood); and others. Again, if you want to change the notability guidelines for local politicians, let’s have that discussion on that talk page. But the evidence clearly shows that Torosis’ article meets the existing standard to keep it. Notecardforfree (talk) 23:04, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Follow up note: Since my last reply, I've added additional sources to the article that provide additional coverage and discussion of Torosis' work. I've been editing Wikipedia for nearly two decades, and I don't think I've seen a subject with this much coverage be deleted for failing WP:GNG. Notecardforfree (talk) 01:32, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- I think this is just case of .WP:TOOSOON. If you have been editing for so long you would know that other pages do not prove notability and it’s incorrect to reference them in AfD. Your additions only confirm that you can only find extremely local sources which barely mention her at all and I found at least one stuffed in there from the Santa Monica Lookout that didn’t have any mentions at all. If you can find find articles outside of her one year ceremonial ascension to mayor, outside our very local press, which she is the focus of or covered in detail, I would be happy to look. The place to put you references is here so the editors do not have to search for them. I tried to add some content about the independent press outside her ascension to mayor and you promptly decided to re-edit it as if you were part of her PR team, which take me think you might have a connection? Also, this was created literally the day she could call herself mayor which should be considered imo. ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 03:30, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- I didn't create this article (and I don't know who did). And no, I'm not on her PR team or anything like that. The COI banner that you put on the page is unwarranted. But I do have an academic/intellectual interest in California politics, and want to make sure our coverage of all California politicians is fair and balanced. I did some cleanup in this article earlier this year because it was extremely biased against her (in fact, it felt like the person who created the article wanted to use it as a platform to criticize her). The content you added about the Ocean Avenue project was not in line with WP:BLP and WP:WEIGHT, so I took the initiative to revise it. As for whether the subject of this article meets the notability guidelines, I don't think you and I are going to reach agreement on this. I've explained my reasons, and you've explained yours. I respectfully disagree, but we'll need to let this AFD process play out. Notecardforfree (talk) 03:46, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- I did not intend to make it "biased" against her, however I tend to be blunt in my wording.
- From my quick google search while looking for sources
- There was notability.
- She was mayor.
- She had a controversy.
- And then leave the rest to anyone else who may want to edit. DarmaniLink (talk) 14:54, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, I included the controversy bit because not saying something because it's bad is effectively a WP:NPOV vio DarmaniLink (talk) 16:09, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
Note: DarmaniLink is the creator of the article. --ABx11 (she/they) 06:15, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- I didn’t blame her directly for the page creation, I just said it should be noted. To me this last rewrite confirms this is just local political advertising and reference stuffing to promote her local political reelection to the city council, if she shouldn’t have a page since most other mayor’s have not gotten one without significant contributions outside of the position, it gives her an unfair advantage against other opponents. WP:POLITICIAN should be applied since her page is all local politics and press.. one big extra thing to consider, this is a ceremonial position for a year, that is why there is no election or real policy coverage outside the city council. In fact, as Mayor she isn’t even allowed to direct city employees, the city council votes and the city manager disperses commands. It’s WP:ADVERTISING at this point.. there certainly seems to be a COI as well given the recent changes to the article. Also stuffing the alpage with articles that do nothing but quote the “mayor” does not meet the in depth coverage requirements outside routine city events. Now this article is filled with tons of political quotes stuffed in to make it look credible.. it’s all very local and PROMO.Has anyone been able to identify and in depth coverage outside her ceremonial ascension to mayor for the year? ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 06:25, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Reply to anon: To be clear, WP:POLITICIAN says that you can be notable for being a local politician (like a mayor). The WP:SIGCOV of Torosis’ mayorship satisfies WP:N. In any event, you’ve asked for sources that discuss torosis outside her ascension to the mayorship. Here’s a partial list:
- Coverage of her work on the rent board before being elected
- Coverage of her work on the rent board in 2022
- 2023 Coverage of her work on council shortly after being elected
- Coverage of her receiving the Just City Mayoral Fellowship at Harvard
- Short coverage in her selection for 500 most influential people in LA
- Coverage about her and the Ocean Ave housing project here and here
- Coverage of her work on economic development and other things
- Interview with Torosis about her restorative justice work
- And, again, I don’t think you and I are going to agree about whether this article should be deleted or not. We’ll need to leave that to whomever has the fun task of closing this discussion. Notecardforfree (talk) 17:24, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment: Thank you for providing the specific links. I agree that coverage does not have to concern activities outside politics, and a source is not disqualified merely because it is local. The question under the basic biographical notability criteria and the general notability guideline, however, is whether the subject has received significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are intellectually independent of one another and independent of the subject.
- Examined individually, most of these links do not meet that standard:
- The 2020 Santa Monica Daily Press article is a joint post-election policy article about Torosis and Anastasia Foster. It quotes both officials but is not an in-depth profile of Torosis.
- The 2022 Santa Monica Lookout article is about a proposed charter amendment. Torosis appears as one Rent Control Board member advocating the proposal; the article covers the Board’s action, not Torosis herself.
- The 2023 Santa Monica Daily Press article is the strongest pre-mayoral example, but it is still a joint “first 100 days” interview with Jesse Zwick, much of which consists of the officials’ own statements. It does not constitute multiple independent coverage by itself.
- The fellowship article is a selection announcement, while the Los Angeles Business Journal item is a brief staff-authored list entry. The “one hundred words” page is an essay, not a notability guideline. The essay itself acknowledges that reaching a particular word count does not establish significant coverage when the material is off-topic or is not genuinely secondary coverage.
- The two Ocean Avenue articles are the clearest subject-focused coverage, but both were written by the same reporter for the same publication about successive developments in one local controversy. They form a single coverage cluster, not sustained, intellectually independent coverage of Torosis’s broader career.
- The State of the City article covers a civic event and largely summarizes Torosis’s official speech. The KCRW report is about Santa Monica’s restorative-justice fund and uses Torosis as an official source; it is not a profile of her.
- Thus, this list does not demonstrate “multiple news feature articles” providing sustained biographical coverage as claimed. At most, it identifies one joint interview and one substantial single-controversy coverage cluster, surrounded by routine reporting about governmental actions, a selection announcement, a list entry, a speech and an official interview.
- These sources verify her public activities, but the notability guideline for politicians expressly states that being an elected local official does not guarantee notability. Given that the Santa Monica mayoralty is a rotating council position without independent executive authority, I still do not see the depth and breadth of independent coverage needed for a standalone biography.delete, redirect to city council page or merge to article about position of mayor of Santa Monica remain the more appropriate outcome. ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 21:45, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
- Anon, I'm not going to be able to convince you, but take a look at the source assessment chart I added below. Notecardforfree (talk) 10:56, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- Reply to anon: To be clear, WP:POLITICIAN says that you can be notable for being a local politician (like a mayor). The WP:SIGCOV of Torosis’ mayorship satisfies WP:N. In any event, you’ve asked for sources that discuss torosis outside her ascension to the mayorship. Here’s a partial list:
- I didn’t blame her directly for the page creation, I just said it should be noted. To me this last rewrite confirms this is just local political advertising and reference stuffing to promote her local political reelection to the city council, if she shouldn’t have a page since most other mayor’s have not gotten one without significant contributions outside of the position, it gives her an unfair advantage against other opponents. WP:POLITICIAN should be applied since her page is all local politics and press.. one big extra thing to consider, this is a ceremonial position for a year, that is why there is no election or real policy coverage outside the city council. In fact, as Mayor she isn’t even allowed to direct city employees, the city council votes and the city manager disperses commands. It’s WP:ADVERTISING at this point.. there certainly seems to be a COI as well given the recent changes to the article. Also stuffing the alpage with articles that do nothing but quote the “mayor” does not meet the in depth coverage requirements outside routine city events. Now this article is filled with tons of political quotes stuffed in to make it look credible.. it’s all very local and PROMO.Has anyone been able to identify and in depth coverage outside her ceremonial ascension to mayor for the year? ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 06:25, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- I didn't create this article (and I don't know who did). And no, I'm not on her PR team or anything like that. The COI banner that you put on the page is unwarranted. But I do have an academic/intellectual interest in California politics, and want to make sure our coverage of all California politicians is fair and balanced. I did some cleanup in this article earlier this year because it was extremely biased against her (in fact, it felt like the person who created the article wanted to use it as a platform to criticize her). The content you added about the Ocean Avenue project was not in line with WP:BLP and WP:WEIGHT, so I took the initiative to revise it. As for whether the subject of this article meets the notability guidelines, I don't think you and I are going to reach agreement on this. I've explained my reasons, and you've explained yours. I respectfully disagree, but we'll need to let this AFD process play out. Notecardforfree (talk) 03:46, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- I think this is just case of .WP:TOOSOON. If you have been editing for so long you would know that other pages do not prove notability and it’s incorrect to reference them in AfD. Your additions only confirm that you can only find extremely local sources which barely mention her at all and I found at least one stuffed in there from the Santa Monica Lookout that didn’t have any mentions at all. If you can find find articles outside of her one year ceremonial ascension to mayor, outside our very local press, which she is the focus of or covered in detail, I would be happy to look. The place to put you references is here so the editors do not have to search for them. I tried to add some content about the independent press outside her ascension to mayor and you promptly decided to re-edit it as if you were part of her PR team, which take me think you might have a connection? Also, this was created literally the day she could call herself mayor which should be considered imo. ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 03:30, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Follow up note: Since my last reply, I've added additional sources to the article that provide additional coverage and discussion of Torosis' work. I've been editing Wikipedia for nearly two decades, and I don't think I've seen a subject with this much coverage be deleted for failing WP:GNG. Notecardforfree (talk) 01:32, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ~ ~100 words, has a few facts, borderline significant coverage | ✘ No | |||
| ✘ No | ||||
| ~ After removing the quotes, 200 words of significant coverage | ~ Maybe | |||
| ~ Has a policies and standards page. Ownership or editorial staff unclear. Articles have bylines. | ✘ No | |||
| ~ The article subject is an interview subject and there is not much secondary analysis | ~ Has a policies and standards page. Ownership or editorial staff unclear. Articles have bylines. | ✘ No | ||
| ~ | ✘ No | |||
| ~ 121 words of coverage. It's from a "top 500" list so discount | ? Unknown | |||
| ✘ No | ||||
| ✘ No | ||||
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. | ||||
- Delete: I took a look at the sources provided by Notecardforfree and I don't think there's enough here. Many of the sources themselves are of suspect quality; the coverage is barebones and relies heavily on quotes and primary sources. I looked on Newspapers.com and there are some quotes in the LA Times, but no significant coverage. I don't think the subject meets the bar. 🌊PacificDepths (talk) 03:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- @PacificDepths: Regarding the Santa Monica Daily Press, my research has shown that it is a respected independent newspaper with significant circulation (certainly on par with other sources that are routinely considered reliable). You can read more about the newspaper here: . You can find their masthead on the PDF version of their newspaper. Here’s the August 20, 2026 edition, and you can find the masthead on the right-hand side on page 3: . According to its masthead, the Daily Press is a National Newspaper Association award winner. As I mentioned much earlier in this discussion, in the news landscape of California and Los Angeles, reporting from papers like the Daily Press fills the gaps left by papers like the LA Times.
- I think we’ll have to agree to disagree about the assessment of some of the sources in your table. The Fox 11 one and the Daily Press’ “Rent Control Talks Shop” very clearly meet the coverage standards per WP:BASIC. In the Daily Press article, the author talks about Torosis’ perspectives on statewide efforts to implement rent control, market factors that were impacting Torosis’ work on the rent board, and trends in voter support in Santa Monica. The article about the fellowship also provides several paragraphs of coverage of Torosis’ goals and priorities as mayor and how those relate to the fellowship program (see also Footnote 7 in WP:BASIC, which compares substantial and trivial coverage).
- Your chart also left out other important sources that also show that this article meets the standard of WP:BASIC, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:POLITICIAN. There’s the 2023 Coverage of her work on council shortly after being elected ; coverage about her and the Ocean Ave housing project here and here ; coverage about her efforts to study a fair work week law ; coverage from the LA Times about the work that Torosis and her city council colleagues are doing to turn around the city ; this LA Times article about Torosis’ vision for revitalizing the city through big events ; and other sources cited in the article
- Here’s my “rebuttal” source assessment, which I’ve limited to nine sources that I think very clearly meet the WP:SIGCOV standard:
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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| ✔ Yes | ||||
| ✔ Yes | ||||
| ✔ Yes | ||||
| ✔ Yes | ||||
| ✔ Yes | ||||
| ✔ Yes | ||||
| ✔ Yes | ||||
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- While I think we clearly have enough sources here to satisfy WP:SIGCOV, I’ll also remind everyone that WP:BASIC also contemplates that a wide breadth of less-substantial coverage can also satisfy the notability criteria:
“If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability”
. I encourage readers to look at both the depth and breadth of coverage in the sources cited in the article. Notecardforfree (talk) 10:52, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- While I think we clearly have enough sources here to satisfy WP:SIGCOV, I’ll also remind everyone that WP:BASIC also contemplates that a wide breadth of less-substantial coverage can also satisfy the notability criteria:
- Delete I am convinced by the source evaluation table presented by Pacific Depths, that the subject does not meet our standards for notability. While stand alone pages about local elected officials are contemplated by NPOL, the standard for local elected officials usually requires analysis of their work:
A politician who has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists
. This frequently revolves around retrospectives of what the officeholder accomplished in office, but could also mean national or international profiles (especially for local elected officials representing smaller jurisdictions [but size of jurisdiction is not mentioned in our guidelines]). There is no city council page or list of mayors to redirect to, so this should be deleted rather than redirected. --Enos733 (talk) 14:40, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Enos733: What did you think of my response to Pacific Depths? I noted that Pacific Depths' source assessment left out key sources (which are summarized in my rebuttal table), and Pacific Depths did not count any sources from the Santa Monica Daily Press (which I also addressed in my response). I will also note that the subject just needs to meet WP:BASIC. There is no requirement for retrospective coverage, and there is no requirement for national or international coverage. Notecardforfree (talk) 15:53, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- I read your source analysis before commenting, and I do not change my opinion. While it is true that WP:BASIC does contemplate
less-substantial coverage can also satisfying the notability criteria
, I feel it is a weak position to hold on to. Fundamentally, the questions I usually have for local elected officials is 1) why is this person important for a stand-alone page in an international encyclopedia and 2) to what degree is the person extraordinary compared to all other similar elected officials? So, I see a mayor in a city-manager form of government whose coverage largely is about plans (that the subject cannot enact unilaterally). And then I look at other existing pages of Santa Monica mayors and see that most do not have stand-alone pages. While this is not an "other pages exist" argument, it raises the question to me of whether there is something about being the mayor of Santa Monica that means a page should be created. In this case very few Santa Monica mayors have stand-alone pages, which again to me suggests we should be looking for national coverage, or coverage that is above the norm (as opposed to routine coverage). Cobbling together a few bits of information from a variety of articles doesn't get to notability (for me at least). - Enos733 (talk) 16:58, 24 August 2026 (UTC)- Just to clarify because you mentioned elected above, The mayor position is ceremonial, given to a new city council member each year. Local papers will cover it every year, for every mayor, as they did for the previous mayors. The city council is a very part time position that pays $18k a year. ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 00:36, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- We could always make articles for the other mayors, most of them are redlinked DarmaniLink (talk) 14:03, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- I read your source analysis before commenting, and I do not change my opinion. While it is true that WP:BASIC does contemplate
- @Enos733: What did you think of my response to Pacific Depths? I noted that Pacific Depths' source assessment left out key sources (which are summarized in my rebuttal table), and Pacific Depths did not count any sources from the Santa Monica Daily Press (which I also addressed in my response). I will also note that the subject just needs to meet WP:BASIC. There is no requirement for retrospective coverage, and there is no requirement for national or international coverage. Notecardforfree (talk) 15:53, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep I looked up Caroline Torosis on google to learn more about her campaign. I found her Wiki and I found the Article for Deletion about her Wiki. I read the List of policies and guidelines for deletion debates. There's significant press coverage. The article isn't low quality. Don't delete it. Maybe politician Wikis should need special rules when there is an election. --Signed ~2026-46396-59 (talk) 17:30, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment - Wikipedia:POLITICIAN directly handles rules for politicians and no one is saying the article is of low written quality, in fact I am impressed at the editors ability to extract nearly every quote ever published as a local city council person and turn it into a substantially wordy page mentioning every political opinion.Unfortunately, in 3 months she is no longer the ceremonial mayor and if she is reelected, she would return to being one of seven local city council people. Taking advantage of creative writing and extremely local coverage doesnt meet Wikipedia’s criteria for notability. Remember votes don’t exclusively determine the outcome of AfD, it relies around the strength of the arguments within the discussion. ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 18:28, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep: I agree with Cullen328. Santa Monica is a large enough city and she has had enough WP:SUSTAINED coverage to pass under the GNG even though she does not meet an automatic inclusion guideline in NPOL. Promotional language should be cleaned up. Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 23:34, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I think this is heading for a no consensus, but let's give it another week.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:08, 26 August 2026 (UTC)- Keep: Santa Monica is a large city, several former mayors have pages that aren't flagged for removal. See Kevin McKeown (politician) There is also significant additional information that can be added to this article if it isn't deleted, like Torosis involvement with the Ebony Beach Club reparations project that was covered in multiple articles. She seems much more noteworthy than several other politicians with dedicated pages. It's also probably worth mentioning the initial article seems to have clearly been written as a sort of political hit piece. It mirrored the writing of an anonymous mail campaign (that seemingly violates several political mailer and campaign laws) and is supposedly being investigated by the postal service for use of a fraudulent return address. To the extent maintaining the current page discourages a repeat of the initial attack piece I'd also recommend it as a "keep". Josiah Blessed (talk) 01:47, 26 August 2026 (UTC)— Josiah Blessed (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- There are no article on the Keven McKeown page that meet the requirements that I saw initially. That page should possibly be added for an AfD discussion. Looking at the coverage of the last Mayor, Lana Negrete reveals almost exactly the same type of political coverage with minor differences based on the issues of their term. ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 03:02, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
- I object to the phrasing of attack piece. Not saying something because it's bad press for them is a form of bias in its own right. I wrote what I found and what sources there. DarmaniLink (talk) 20:06, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep in mind as well there are significantly more sources now than there were before as well, given she had just become mayor. I attributed every single claim to the source which said such, with leading attribution. DarmaniLink (talk) 20:09, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment for closing Admin I would be suspect of the flurry off keep votes and examine their history as one account was created specifically for this vote, one is anonymous and the others screen name suggests they might have a connection to the subject. Either way, together as a whole they look suspicious and perhaps checking the substance of the accounts on the delete side might reveal more established editors who participate in AfD. While I might be commenting, as an anon I am not actually submitting a vote. ~2026-45967-23 (talk) 02:58, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep: Santa Monica is a large city, several former mayors have pages that aren't flagged for removal. See Kevin McKeown (politician) There is also significant additional information that can be added to this article if it isn't deleted, like Torosis involvement with the Ebony Beach Club reparations project that was covered in multiple articles. She seems much more noteworthy than several other politicians with dedicated pages. It's also probably worth mentioning the initial article seems to have clearly been written as a sort of political hit piece. It mirrored the writing of an anonymous mail campaign (that seemingly violates several political mailer and campaign laws) and is supposedly being investigated by the postal service for use of a fraudulent return address. To the extent maintaining the current page discourages a repeat of the initial attack piece I'd also recommend it as a "keep". Josiah Blessed (talk) 01:47, 26 August 2026 (UTC)— Josiah Blessed (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete per the cogent source analysis by PacificDepths. Further, historically we discredit coverage of mayors that is local at AFD as counting toward GNG. We would need to see coverage at the regional (ie not in the Santa Monica/ Los Angeles media market) to demonstrate notability in this case in the spirit of WP:NPOL. That just doesn't exist here. I note that some of the other Santa Monica mayor articles should probably be deleted as well.4meter4 (talk) 03:24, 2 September 2026 (UTC)
- Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting to List of DC Comics characters: D because the character doe not seem to meet WP:GNG. For additional arguments and rationale, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doctor Light (Arthur Light), this would work as a bundle nom (since the article's are very similar and a merge might also be an option, if some more sources are found) except I don't know a tool to easily make them. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:34, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Merge to List of DC Comics characters: D, or maybe rather List of DC Comics characters: L. A pure redirect makes little sense - again, sigh - as the target only contains a heading and a link back here. I have added a secondary source. There are more, but likely not providing enough material and reception for a stand-alone article, so a merge in the spirit of WP:ATD-M seems the best solution to me. Daranios (talk) 09:57, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Merge to Doctor Light (DC Comics) per WP:ATD-M to avoid bloating the character list. Fiction Fanatic III (talk) 21:53, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- That doesn't make much sense, rationale-wise. Merge to DL makes sense only if we can estabilish notability of the cmbined characters as a concept. Otherwise, merge to the list still is the most sensible outcome - since we would likely end up with merge on the short-lived new DL article (again, unless we can agree DL is notable). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:28, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge to Doctor Light (DC Comics) - This version of Doctor Light is also one of the Asian female characters of DC Comics so there's a fair bit of coverage on her as such: [1][2][3]. She also is mentioned in All New, All Different? A History of Race and the American Superhero and is critiqued on her characterization. CosmicMordecai (talk) 00:47, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- EDIT: I forgot to add that the character is notable enough on her own but if not, she should at least get decent coverage on the same Doctor Light page. There's no reason for her to be moved to a listing because she is definitely notable enough. CosmicMordecai (talk) 00:48, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep or merge with Doctor Light (DC Comics) per the suggestions that were made by @Fiction Fanatic III: and @CosmicMordecai: --Rtkat3 (talk) 00:50, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
- Which one would you lean on more? I would lean more on keep but the fallback action would be mege. I think the character has enough notability on her own from Arthur Light. EDIT: i corrected a minor spelling error.CosmicMordecai (talk) 01:08, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Romany, the Diva of Magic (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I take an interest in this area - Romany is highly-respected in those circles but doesn't have significant external notability beyond one or two TV appearances. Have looked for more recent SIGCOV to update the article with, but there doesn't appear to be very much. Haz215 (talk) 13:51, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
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Comment from article subject — I am Romany, the subject of this article, and acknowledge my conflict of interest. I understand that accomplishments alone do not establish Wikipedia notability, but several substantial sources appear to have been overlooked:
- The BBC World Service produced a documentary devoted to my work, In the Studio: Romany – Diva of Magic, broadcast 5 June 2018. Producer Natasha Serlin followed the creation of a new stage act: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csww6t
- Paul Romhany, “Romany: Diva of Magic – Dream Big,” VANISH International Magic Magazine, edition 48, July 2018, pp. 60–75 — a substantial cover feature devoted to my career and work.
- Connie Boyd, “Romany Romany: Diva of Magic – Dream Big,” The Power of Magical Women, Vanish Press, 2025, pp. 205–208, ISBN 979-8-9999359-2-2 — a recent four-page biographical profile. I recognise that this develops material previously published in VANISH and do not suggest it should be double-counted as wholly independent coverage.
- “Romany, Diva of Magic,” The Linking Ring, vol. 87, no. 8, August 2007, pp. 30–33 — a four-page profile, in addition to the cover.
- “Romany Talks to John Helvin,” Mystery Magazine, vol. 2, issue 11, September 2011, pp. 20–24.
- The Stage reported that I represented the UK at the World Magic Seminar and became the first British performer to win the Siegfried & Roy Golden Lion Award: https://www.thestage.co.uk/features/2011-in-review-light-entertainment
- The Magic Circle’s official record describes Stage Magician of the Year as one of the most keenly contested competitions in UK magic and states that “Romany, the Diva of Magic, remains the only female winner”: https://themagiccircle.co.uk/about/competitions-and-awards/stage-magician-of-the-year/
- Showtown Blackpool’s permanent magic gallery includes my costume, Magic Circle trophy and recorded story. Its official launch coverage identifies me as a featured performer: https://www.visitblackpool.com/latest-news/showtown-opens-to-the-public/
My career has principally been in international live stage entertainment rather than television, so television appearances alone are not an appropriate measure of the available coverage. I respectfully ask uninvolved editors to assess whether this sustained specialist coverage, BBC documentary, trade-press coverage and institutional recognition satisfy the applicable notability guidelines. I can supply complete publication details or page scans if requested. EnchantedForest26 (talk) 19:26, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Hi, Romany here, currently sitting on a plane about to fly to Hamburg to MSC Preziosa to perform my solo show in their 1600 seater theatre for their international audience. I'll be home on 7th Sept and can take some photos from the Connie Boyd book, screenshots from The Magic Circle website etc. With best wishes. ~2026-47525-79 (talk) 13:21, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
- Comment interesting to see someone who appears to be Romany herself offering to provide scanned newspaper coverage. Maybe we should wait to see if she follows up before making a decision. Haz215 (talk) 06:53, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete The article does not meet the established relevance ~2026-47085-96 (talk) 00:50, 30 August 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discounting the TA's delete comment which does not indicate a valid P&G argument for deletion. Going to give this another week before closing as a no consensus.
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- Anila Baig (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. Writing articles for unreliable source like The Sun is not inherently notable. BookishReader (talk) 06:37, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Kiran Nazish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Despite 39 cited sources, there is none that covers her in-depth (WP:SIGCOV) to pass WP:GNG. BookishReader (talk) 03:03, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. I found this through the academic deletion sorting list, and she has been Stanley Knowles Distinguished Professor at Brandon University, but that appears to be a visitor's title rather than a permanent academic rank and I don't think Brandon counts as a "major institution of higher education and research", so I don't think this passes WP:PROF#C5. We should look to WP:GNG instead. Here we have references "Visiting prof goes from conflicts to BU campus" in a local newspaper, and "They are putting their lives on the line every day to report" in The Guardian as independent sources about her and her work rather than by her. There are another two paragraphs about her in a 2023 USA Today story about women journalists . That's not much but I think it meets the bare minimum of independent in-depth sourcing. And the interview in Deutsche Welle doesn't count as independent coverage but it adds to the evidence that she's known on an international stage, as does the separate notability of the Coalition For Women In Journalism that she founded. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:51, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Limited merge to Coalition For Women In Journalism (CFWIJ) per WP:ATD. Fails WP:NPROF and the sources found by David include interviews which strictly speaking lack independence and therefore do not count towards GNG. The sourcing just isn't strong enough for a standalone article. That said, we could reasonably have a short biographical profile on her at the CFWIJ article. Some of the content could be housed there. Best.4meter4 (talk) 04:06, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep – The nomination for deletion assumes a lack of contemporary notability that is entirely disproven by the subject's profound institutional footprint over the past decade. The current live article is an abandoned, ten-year-old artifact that in fact fails to reflect her evolution from a frontline conflict reporter with significant experience into an international press freedom executive. Her background from the global south, becoming a leading international press freedom figure is also rare, and worth noting. This is a text-book case where the appropriate encyclopedic remedy is a comprehensive update and clean-up, not a deletion.
Wikipedia's foundational purpose is to document and preserve the histories of those whose vital contributions are often regularly marginalized and overlooked. Kiran Nazish’s trajectory represents a highly distinct and notable case: an independent female journalist from the Global South who overcame severe systemic, geopolitical, and financial barriers to pioneer and lead an active global press safety infrastructure. I can verify this as reported by The Guardian (2024), when she was confronted with targeted threats to her own life, she used her personal savings and emergency safety funds to build a pro-bono support network for women that has since grown into a vital non-governmental lifeline operating across 145 countries. As a n independent journalist from the Global South who established a safety network spanning 145 countries despite severe resource barriers, retaining and updating this biography directly aligns with the goals of WP:WIR to address gender and systemic gaps in the encyclopedia.
To delete the biography of a living subject who has actively managed crisis evacuations for over 2,000 threatened media workers, lobbied international governments for humanitarian asylum pathways, and held prestigious, peer-nominated academic chairs like the Stanley Knowles Distinguished Visiting Professorship would be a disservice to the encyclopedia's core mission. The provided high-quality, tier-one secondary sources establish her enduring notability under WP:GNG, WP:JOURNALIST, and WP:PROF.
Below is the detailed, expanded content and corresponding reference framework that can be integrated immediately into the main namespace to save and overhaul this article:
Lead Section Update
[edit]Kiran Nazish is an international press freedom advocate focused on gender, former foreign correspondent, and professor. She is the founding director of the Coalition For Women In Journalism (CFWIJ), a New York-based global press freedom and support organization, and serves as the director of the WIJ Institute Canada. Following a two-decade career reporting from international conflict zones, Nazish documented systemic gender disparities within global newsrooms and subsequently established the first international mentorship and peer-support networks for women journalists.
She initially financed the foundational operations of the support organization using her personal savings from freelance reporting in the Middle East and the emergency safety funds that she had received from CPJ after documented death threats to her life related to her reporting work. Since 2019, the CFWIJ officially launched as a global press freedom organization dedicated to gender-specific support. Through this framework, Nazish has directed advocacy, safety policy, and emergency response initiatives across 145 countries, monitoring press violations and collaborating with state institutions, international civil society groups, and legal bodies to mitigate systemic threats, legal harassment, and physical safety risks faced by women and non-binary journalists. Born in Pakistan, Nazish has lived and worked in North America for over a decade, residing primarily in New York, United States, and Vancouver, Canada.
Press Freedom and Advocacy Leadership
[edit]Following two decades of frontline conflict reporting, Nazish transitioned into global press freedom advocacy, focusing heavily on systemic threats against women, minority and exiled journalists. In 2017, she used her personal savings to launch the Coalition For Women In Journalism (CFWIJ) as a pro-bono mentorship network.[1][2] Under her direction, the organization secured foundational seed funding from Craig Newmark Philanthropies in 2019 and expanded into a global support network spanning over 145 countries.[2] Through the CFWIJ and its specialized branch, Women Press Freedom, Nazish designed the first global female-led mentorship infrastructure and built a comprehensive newsroom dedicated to tracking physical violations, legal harassment, and transnational repression targeting female and LGBTQ+ media professionals.[1][3] Her advocacy work routinely interfaces with international bodies, including the European Commission, to consult on safety policies for journalists seeking asylum from autocratic regimes.[4]
Crisis Response and Emergency Evacuations
[edit]In addition to safety policy advocacy, Nazish has directed international crisis response and emergency evacuation operations for media workers operating in conflict zones. Following the August 2021 withdrawal of coalition forces from Afghanistan, Nazish led an emergency evacuation campaign under the CFWIJ to assist targeted female media professionals and activists. Operating tactical field logistics, she and her organization collaborated with local Afghan community leaders, U.S. military contacts, and veterans' networks to navigate airport checkpoints and severe security bottlenecks, engaging regional aviation entities, including Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) and Kam Air, as well as coordination alongside the Ukrainian military, to secure transit and flights out of Hamid Karzai International Airport.[5]
When formal U.S. government and military flights ceased, Nazish managed ground land-route transits and safe-house networks, publicly lobbying international governments, including a formal appeal to Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama, to secure immediate humanitarian amnesty and visas for stranded reporters.[6] These emergency evacuation and resettlement frameworks have intersected directly with Canadian humanitarian pathways. Through strategic policy engagement with Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) and Global Affairs Canada, Nazish and the CFWIJ lobbied for specialized human rights defender visas and priority processing for endangered media workers.[7] Under her continued leadership and direction, the CFWIJ expanded these specialized emergency operations globally, managing cases, tracking legal harassment, and coordinating crisis assistance or relocation frameworks for more than 2,000 journalists facing structural threats across international boundaries, including Iran, Turkey, Mexico, Poland, and Ukraine.[1]
Academic Appointments
[edit]From 2019 to 2020, Nazish was appointed as the Stanley Knowles Distinguished Professor at Brandon University in Canada. The chair, named in honor of former Member of Parliament in Canada and University Chancellor Stanley Knowles. This is an exclusive academic distinction awarded by a university committee to scholars with an international reputation for excellence in public policy or interdisciplinary fields. Nominated by the faculty, Nazish was the first specialized international journalist to ever be awarded the professorship and first ever to be awarded it in two consecutive years.
During her tenure, she integrated international press freedom frameworks into the curriculum, instructed courses in global conflict journalism, and supported research on refugee experiences in Canada, as well as the systemic socio-academic barriers and covert bias experienced by international students in Canada.[8]
Additional Institutional References:
[edit]- The New York Times (Expert Consultation Profile): [9] Features Nazish analyzing targeted state-sponsored violence aimed at silencing female media workers.
- The New York Times At War Column: [10] Analytical profile essay detailing the covert methodologies of state censorship.
- The New York Times Editorial Database: [11] Direct documentation of her investigative reporting credits across the Metro and Foreign Desks.
- The Diplomat (Drone Warfare Ground Investigations): [12] A core policy analysis evaluating regional security frameworks and civilian costs in South Asia.
- Media Masters Podcast Profile (2022): [13] Comprehensive broadcast profile validating her two-decade shift from war reporting to international safety architecture.
- Mum's the word (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most of the coverage I could find about this is actually about feminism or women's autonomy. There is not much covering the word itself. Of course, there are entries in dictionaries, but if that's all we use, we'd end up at WP:NOTDICT. HerrHeulsuse (talk) 06:03, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Merge to English-language idioms per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 06:36, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment Mum's the Word (a dab page) also exists. It could be merged to there, but given that page, this isn't purely a dicdef. Black Kite (talk) 07:57, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
- A basic definition of "Mum's the word" can be put there, and then the disambiguation should be removed. HerrHeulsuse (talk) 12:33, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to the dab page (deletion would be fine too; in-wiki searches are case-insensitive). This is clearly just a dicdef, and the dab page already has the basic definition along with a Wikitionary link box, so nothing more is really needed. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 17:13, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep. The rationale is flawed. This phrase has nothing to do with feminism (or chrysanthemums!), but the idiom is so well-known that it's frequently used as a pun in headlines and titles. That's not a valid reason to delete, but it does make searching for sources a bit harder. pburka (talk) 13:56, 13 August 2026 (UTC)- This doesn't really address the WP:NOTDICT concerns, though, regardless of confusion in the nomination. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 05:44, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
- Withdrawing !vote. I expected that it would be fairly easy to flesh this page out enough to meet WP:WORDISSUBJECT, but I've struggled to find much coverage of this (or related terms) beyond dictionaries and a few newspaper trivia pieces. pburka (talk) 19:46, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
- This doesn't really address the WP:NOTDICT concerns, though, regardless of confusion in the nomination. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 05:44, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Needs more discussion to reach a common outcome....
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BhikhariInformer 📮 (Ping me or else I won't see it) 17:42, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Weak keep based on what's available, and to avoid feeding our critics. The original phrase is close in connotation to Loose lips sink ships, but it was co-opted as a pun for "being a feminist is important", much like "You better work" changed meaning from "Go to work" to "Show your dance moves". It's a stub, but I don't really think it's harming anyone here, unless you're that sensitive. Certainly our cultural critics are sensitive, and would care about a classic phrase being deleted. If it's not a big deal, but could make us look silly, why are we talking about this? Bearian (talk) 06:05, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
"to avoid feeding our critics"
? Huh? How?"but it was co-opted as a pun for "being a feminist is important", "
What? By whom? and when?"much like "You better work" changed meaning from "Go to work" to "Show your dance moves"."
What!? No it hasn't. What does any of this have to do with WP:NOTDICT? None of this makes even a lick of sense. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:34, 23 August 2026 (UTC)- I agree, I was confused by such an experienced and senior user making such arguments. HerrHeulsuse (talk) 10:14, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We have a delete, merge and redirect + 1 weak keep whose rational does not impress me. Gonna give this another week.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:29, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
- Annu Patel (via WP:PROD on 6 November 2024)
Deletion review
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