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romani religion [16 Nov 2010|12:39am]

eska_rina
Hello everybody.

I've been a long time reader of this and other communities about the romani people, but this is the first time posting. I need the help of you guys.

I'm currently studying Religion at my local university and this year I'm supposed to write my bachelor. I've had huge trouble deciding what my subject to be, but due to personal reasons I've finally decided on write my paper on the religious aspect of the romani culture(s).

I'm unsure on which aspect to focus on right now, though I think it will be something about Sarah-la-Kali and/or the pilgrimage in Camargue. That being said, I'm open for suggestions if anyone else have an interesting subject/question to research.

Anyway, what I'm currently looking for are books, articles - texts in general -, movies, etc. about the myths, religions and religious tradition of the romani population, especially regarding the traditions of Sarah-la-Kali. I'm especially interested in academic papers and personal descriptions of the pilgrimage. Maybe one of you guys have participated in this pilgrimage and can describe it for me*?

Lots of love and thanks for the help,
Mry

*If I can afford it, I might participate in the pilgrimage this spring myself. Are anyone familiar with a cheap, close hostel or something like that?

add: Okay, fail on my part for forgetting this, but a) are anyone familiar with any romani groups in Denmark and/or how to get in contact with one of them? b) I can also be contacted at eskabom@gmail.com, and c) if you want to link to this, then you can also link to the post about this in my personal journal here.

X-posted a couple of places; sorry if you see this more than once. If you're familiar with a community, where this subject would be relevant to talk about, then please tell me about this. Also, please feel free to link to this post if you are familiar with people, who knows a lot about this subject.
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T aven baxtale! Nabut shukripen. [13 Mar 2010|10:07am]

gipsy_lilith


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This girl is not an actress. Her name is Nelly, she lives in a village in Russia, her father is a driver.

The author of Svenko project, Lera Yanysheva, makes traditional Romani costumes of XIX and the beginning of XX century. She invites Romani women and girls to be photographed dancing dressed in those costumes. But suddenly she understood that most of her friends are actresses (she is an actress herself) and they dance in a scenic style. Then Lera decided to invite Romani girls who are not actresses or dancers and who dances in a usual, traditional style. Nelly is one of those girls.
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Romani Language preservation projects? [15 Sep 2009|11:48am]

gypsymoonchild
[ mood | full ]

Hello,
I'm in need of some information on Romani language. I've recently started studying linguistics in college, and one of my first projects involves researching languages that are considered "endangered." (Apparently Romani was on that list according to my teacher.) Does anyone know where there's some good, reliable information on the Romani language, and the conservation projects currently being done relating to it. Thanks in advance!

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A question [14 Dec 2008|02:02pm]

romani_chez
[ mood | curious ]


I have a question. I have been visiting quite a few sites on the net that sell "Romani" items. Some claim these items are made by Roma or benefit Roma in some way. Many of these pages sell "Gypsy Fortune Telling" guides, anything from sex charms to financial success. I've read one of these books and in the last chapter the author explains that many gadjo want to believe Romani can tell the future, so you can tell them anything and get paid for it. In other words...it isn't real.  One of the pages I viewed said that imitating the Romani will bring you bad luck.

My question then, is this: Do you think that the selling of books about 'Gypsy Love Magic' and other such things damages us? Does it not promote the stereotype? I do understand that there are many Romani out there who still make their living from fortune telling. I'm not making judgements about the issue, I am trying to understand the facts better so I may make up my mind on the issue. I am a Roma Holocaust educator and this question comes up often. I'd like more opinions on the subject, if anyone cares to help.

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Reply from the EU [23 Sep 2008|05:23am]

romani_chez
[ mood | but not surprised ]


Here is the answer I received this morning from the EU. Note that they pointed to the Summit and said "Look here! Something big and shiny! See, we really like the Gypsies and we say so. Listen to our WORDS. Don't pay any attention to our ACTIONS."

Take a moment to view the videos. While the president is speaking, many Roma are holding up t-shirts with fingerprints on them.

I intend on sending a reply to the empl-antidiscrimination@ec.europa.eu addy later today.



We acknowledge receipt of your message and, would like to thank you for your message and your comments.
 
We kindly inform you that EUROPE DIRECT will transmit your views to the relevant services of the European Commission so that these services are fully informed about your concerns. While EUROPE DIRECT has no further information on any negotiations with the Italian authorities, we would like to clarify that, regarding the situation of its Roma populations, the European Union (EU) follows a very strict non-discrimination and anti-exclusion policy.
 
Last week, the first EU summit on problems faced by the Roma minority (16 September 2008) took place in Brussels. In the opening speech, the European Commission President, José Manuel Barroso, very clearly stated that “The Commission strongly rejects any stigmatization of Roma. In the European Union every man, woman and child has the right to live a life free from discrimination and persecution. This is an issue of European and universal values, as well as an issue of fairness, social solidarity and democracy”.
While pointing out that the main tools for inclusion of Roma populations are in the hands of EU countries, President Barroso also indicated that the EU can and does complement national, regional and local action by funding projects specifically geared to Roma, by coordinating EU member countries’ Roma policies and by ensuring that laws on racial equality are enforced.
 
For full information about this summit, please have a look at the following page:
 
 
The web page "EU and Roma" of the European Commission's Directorate-General (DG) for Employment, Social Affairs and Equal Opportunities might also be of interest:
 
 
Please note that you can send your views and/or any specific questions you might have on anti-discrimination measures and inclusion policies for the Roma to the Anti-discrimination Unit of DG Employment, Social affairs and Equal Opportunities via the following e-mail address:
 
We hope this information will be useful to you.
 
With kind regards,
 
EUROPE DIRECT Contact Centre
 
Treaty of Lisbon – Taking Europe into the 21st century
 
Voice your opinion on the EU
 
Disclaimer
Please note: We will try to ensure that you receive the information requested, or to direct you to an appropriate source. However, we are unable to comment on specific issues pertaining to EU policy, and information provided by EUROPE DIRECT may not be considered as legally binding.


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Languages? [21 Sep 2008|02:25pm]

romani_chez
[ mood | curious ]

Does anyone here speak Russian or Romanes?

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Just me [19 Sep 2008|07:07pm]

romani_chez
[ mood | annoyed ]

I think if anyone gives me one more recipe for 'Gypsy Chicken Soup' that starts off with
 

Step one: steal a chicken

I think I'll scream.  I'm getting tired of certain people telling me what 'real Gypsies' are like. 
"They always steal. They have to. Its how they grew up."
or
"You can't be a real Gypsy. You don't play the guitar."
My personal favorite: "I'm having a Halloween party. Would you like to come? You can tell fortunes if you want." 
I don't want. I'm not a party favor. I'm not a decoration. I'm not a thief. I'm not a musician. I AM a Romani.

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EU's Response to Questions [17 Sep 2008|04:50pm]

romani_chez
[ mood | curious ]


I sent a request of information to the EU regarding their cooperation with Italy and the fingerprinting of the Roma living in Italy.  Here is their response with links.  My response to this follows.

We acknowledge receipt of your message, and in response to your enquiry, we would like to inform you that that the European Commission has cleared controversial plans by Italy to fingerprint its Roma residents.
Michele Cercone, spokesperson for Justice, Freedom and Security, stated that good cooperation between the European Commission and the Italian government had made it possible to correct any debatable measures or provisions. He added that the report makes no reference to guidelines, decrees or rules allowing the collection of data on the basis of ethnic or religious origin, and, moreover, he added that for minors, this is limited to cases which are strictly necessary for identification, when that is not possible by other documents.
Please note that the first European Roma Summit will take place in Brussels on 16 September 2008. It will be the first time that EU institutions, national governments and civil society organisations from around Europe come together at the highest level to discuss the situation of Roma communities in the European Union and find ways to improve it.
You will find more information on this issue in the website of Directorate-General (DG) for Employment, Social Affairs and Equal Opportunities, through the following link:
 
To consult the European commission press release on this issue, please use the following link:




This is my response.  I am curious to see if I get anything back. It took five days to get the above response.



Thank you for your detailed reply. I appreciate it very much. I have a few questions further.

1. From what I have read on the EU's stance on racism, how can fingerprinting only one race of people prevent crime? There have been many instances of blaming the Romani for crimes committed by the Gadji. If the desired result is to solve crimes or prevent them, then why not fingerprint ALL Italians? As I stated before, if this were happening to Jews or any other minority, the world would be outraged.

2. What does the EU plan to do if the results of moving forward with Italy's policy results in more violence against the Romani? There have already been attacks against Roma who turned out to be legal Italian citizens. By endorsing this policy, the EU is basically saying it is alright to target the Roma because they are criminals, after all, they are being fingerprinted. It sets the Roma apart, makes them less then human. This is a dehumanization process that will make it easier for everyone to discriminate against the Roma even more than they do already.

3. Did the negotiations that took place between the EU and the Italian government include any members from the Romani governing council? If not, why not?

Racism hurts everyone, not just those who are the victims of it. No matter what Italy wants to paint this as, it is a racist policy and can only be solved when Italy gives a closer inspection to her own immigration laws and addresses her human rights policies. The EU's backing of this plan demeans the standards the EU has set for itself in front of the world community. It appears to many that the EU has caved in with regard to Italy. What if other communities adopt this policy? What then? Why punish an ethnic group for a country's lack of governmental policy? Isn't it better to demand that Italy deal with its racial make up?

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

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Not sure how I feel with this article [06 Dec 2007|02:19pm]

sonanova
Or  the problematic depiction of American Romani as only charlatans and fortunetellers.

Let me know what you think. 
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Gypsy children portrays from Chachipe contest [08 Oct 2007|02:36pm]

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