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[personal profile] siderea
For well over a year now, I've been managing presumed-perimenopausal sleep time hot flashes by means of an herbal supplement, black cohosh. I take one capsule before bed.

Since it had been a long time since I had any actual hot flashes while I slept, I was wondering if I actually still had, or would have, hot flashes in my sleep if I weren't taking it; I wondered if when they remitted, it had really been from the black cohosh or whether that was just a coincidence of timing.

I've been through many bottles of the stuff by now; I've always used the same brand, Nature's Bounty, because it seems to be reputable. Like one does, I got to the end of one bottle last Sunday, and opened another to populate my weekly pill case.

All last week, my sleep has been fubarred by one hot flash after another waking me up.

Yesterday I acquired another bottle of the same product, same brand from the same vendor, and took a capsule from that bottle.

No hot flashes last night.

Okay, so, apparently,

1) Yes, I am still prone to hot flashes while I sleep,

2) Yes, black cohosh is being effective at making them not happen,

3) No, it's not the placebo effect,

4) Something is wrong with this here specific bottle of black cohosh.

Dang, I would like last week back. I've been dragging my ass all week from exhaustion from being woken up so much.

In not unrelated news, [personal profile] tn3270 is SUPER excited to learn that black cohosh, Actaea racemosa L., is a fast-growing showy ornamental flower that grows up to 8 feet tall in shade, in a wide spectrum of USDA hardiness zones of which we're in the middle. Speaking as someone with a lot of childhood experience of skunk cabbage, I'm a little concerned that it's also called "bugbane" and described as "fragrant". Anyone know what the flowers of the black cohosh smell like?

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Date: 2024-01-15 01:59 am (UTC)
gatheringrivers: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gatheringrivers
Thanks for the info on Black Cohosh. I need to get some now. :)

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Date: 2024-01-15 03:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heavenscalyx
We have a volunteer black cohosh that has come up in our yard. I have not stuck my nose in it but I have also not noticed any regrettable aromas around it.

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Date: 2024-01-15 04:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dark_phoenix54
Be aware that black cohosh is a bitch to propagate, and takes hold very slowly. So, start with plants, not seeds, unless you are very adept with seed starting- it requires IIRC more than one cold/warm cycle to germinate a lot of the time. Also, large plants are better than small because of the slowness, and the fact that it also doesn't like being divided. (no, I have no idea how it survives in nature, with these problems)

As far as scent, it's one of those things that some people find sweet, while some people find it sort of a rotting smell. Beauty in the eye and all that. But- it attracts pollinators like crazy! So bonus points for growing it!

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Date: 2024-01-15 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ewt
I have no idea what black cohosh smells like, but I am charmed and delighted at the idea of [personal profile] tn3270 growing it.

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Date: 2024-01-15 01:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vesta_aurelia
I take the same stuff for the saaaaaammmme reasons.
I have to say, after getting Covid for Christmas (ugh), my internal thermostat is... a bit off. And even the black cohosh isn't quite tackling it.

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Date: 2024-01-15 03:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] semperfiona
A very timely post, as I have recently been having my sleep disrupted by hot flashes. Time to try black cohosh

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Date: 2024-01-15 07:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cvirtue
It turns out that I have this growing in the yard. I stole some from a neighbor's road verge. I have not noticed a scent when I've been within 5 feet. I probably sniffed it when I stole it, and if so, I thought it was quite mild.

It's been growing at the neighbor's for at least 3 years, in partial shade, and has not been taller than about two feet.
I'm near Worchester re: zone info, nominally 6a.

Updated MA zone map, some clear changes from 10 years ago:
https://www.wbur.org/news/2023/11/22/usda-plant-hardiness-zone-map-massachusetts

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Date: 2024-01-15 08:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cellio

I guess that's a +N for science (even if accidental) and a -M for the negative effects of science... (not sure whether N > M). But yay for maybe growing your own supply!

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Date: 2024-01-17 09:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kelkyag
That sounds worth checking out as both a medicine and a garden plant. Thank you!

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