Wikipedia:Templates for discussion

"WP:TFD" redirects here. For templates nominated today, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 September 1. For nominating TimedText pages or talk pages, see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. For a list of templates used for discussion, see Wikipedia:List of discussion templates.

XFD backlog

V	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Total
CfD	0	94	80	0	174
TfD	1	0	49	0	50
MfD	0	0	0	0	0
FfD	6	2	31	0	42
RfD	0	0	45	0	45
AfD	0	0	1	0	1

Templates for discussion (TfD) is where Wikipedians discuss whether a template or Lua module should be deleted or merged. Nominated templates are normally discussed for at least seven days, after which a decision may be reached based on community consensus.

If you want to nominate a template or module for deletion or merging, follow the instructions below. The discussion could result in an outcome other than the one you nominate it for (e.g., a merge nomination can result in deletion).

How to use this page

Reasons for nominating a template

1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance.
2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template.
3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used.
4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing.

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help. Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for discussion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

What not to nominate here

The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace and module namespace should be nominated on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

• Stub templates – Stub templates and categories should be nominated at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
• Userboxes – Userboxes should be nominated at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
• Template redirects – Nominate all redirects at Redirects for discussion.
• Moving and renaming a template – Use Requested moves.
• Speedy deletion candidates – If the template clearly satisfies a criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}. See also WP:T5.
• Policy or guideline templates – Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be nominated at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant policy or guideline.

Nominate a template

You are not logged in, so you are not autoconfirmed. Unless you log in, you cannot nominate an template on your own.Your account is autoconfirmed. This means you can use Twinkle to easily nominate templates!is not autoconfirmed. You can nominate templates, but you cannot use Twinkle to do it easily.

Follow the instructions in this section to nominate a template for deletion or for merging into another template. Do not include the "Template:" prefix in any of the steps. If you wish to nominate multiple related templates at once, nominate the first template using one of the methods below, preferably the § Twinkle method, and then bundle the additional templates into the existing nomination.

You will need to write a short nomination statement, explaining why you think the template should be deleted or merged. If a nomination does not recommend any course of action, such as merge or redirect, it is implied that the nominator recommends deletion. For desired outcomes other than deletion, the statement typically starts with '''Propose merging''' [[Template:...]] into [[Template:...]].

Only registered users can nominate templates for deletion or merging. If the box on the left says your account is autoconfirmed, it is highly recommended that you use the Twinkle tool to nominate templates. Otherwise, you can become autoconfirmed by creating an account and making at least 10 edits and waiting 4 days since your first edit.

Methods

Twinkle

How to nominate a template at TfD

After enabling Twinkle, navigate to the template you want to nominate

Simply fill out the form and click "Submit"!

The easiest way to nominate templates for deletion or merging is using the Twinkle tool. To install and use the tool, follow these steps:

1. Open your Gadgets preferences, find and enable "Twinkle", then click Save
2. Go back to the template, click "TW" in the top right, and choose "XFD"
3. Select your desired outcome from the list (delete or merge) and write a short nomination statement
4. If you want to nominate more than one template, follow these additional steps

Manual method

If you are autoconfirmed, you should use the § Twinkle method to nominate templates at TfD. You can use the manual method in case you're registered but not yet autoconfirmed. However, using Twinkle is still recommended in most cases. All of the steps below can be performed automatically by the script in a few seconds.

Step	Instructions
Step 1 Tag the template	Paste one of the following notices to the top of the template page: For deletion: {{subst:Tfd}} For deletion of a sidebar or infobox template: {{subst:Tfd|type=sidebar}} For deletion of an inline template: {{subst:Tfd|type=inline}} and don't add a newline after the notice. For merging: {{subst:Tfm|name of other template}} For merging an inline template: {{subst:Tfm|type=inline|name of other template to be merged}} and don't add a newline after the notice. To delete a module or a different type of template, see Template:Template for discussion § Display on articles Note: If the template is protected, request that the TfD notice be added on the template's talk page using the {{editprotected}} template, to catch the attention of administrators or template editors. If the template is designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the TfD notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template. Example: <noinclude>{{subst:Tfd}}</noinclude> Use an edit summary like Nominated for discussion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]] Before saving your edit, preview the page to ensure the TfD notice is displayed properly. Related categories If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, paste {{Catfd|name of the template}} to the top of any categories that could be deleted as a result of the TfD, replacing template name with the name of the first nominated template. (If you instead nominated multiple templates, use {{Catfd|header=name of the first template}}.) TemplateStyles pages If you are nominating TemplateStyles pages, these templates won't work. Instead, paste this CSS comment to the top of the page: /* This template is being discussed in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Help reach a consensus at its entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026_September_1#Template:template_name.css */
Step 2 List the template	Edit today's TfD log and paste the following text to the top of the list: For deletion: {{subst:Tfd2|name of the template|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}} For merging: {{subst:Tfm2|name of the template|name of the other template|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}} If the template has had previous TfDs, you can optionally add {{Oldtfdlist|previous TfD without square brackets|result of previous TfD}} in the |text= field immediately before your rationale (or alternatively at the very end, after the last }}). Use an edit summary such as Adding deletion/merging nomination of [[Template:template name]]. Related categories If this template deletion proposal involves a category populated solely by templates, paste this code in the |text= field of the {{Tfd2}} template, before your rationale: {{subst:Catfd2|name of the category}}

Nominate multiple templates

If nominating similar templates for deletion or merging, it is best to make this a group nomination so that they can be considered collectively. This avoids excessive repetition. However, if a template in the group has a significantly better chance of standing on its own merits, it should not be bundled—nominate it separately. For the sake of clarity, nominations should only be bundled near the start of the process, ideally before any substantive discussion, but may be acceptable following a couple other editors' comments.

Nominate the first template, preferably using Twinkle

To do it manually instead, follow  Step 1  above. Tag every template with {{subst:Tfd|heading=name of the first template}} or {{subst:Tfm|name of the other template|heading=name of the first template}} instead of the versions given in  Step 1 , but still not changing the PAGENAME code.

List the template

To do it manually, follow  Step 2  above, paste the following code instead. You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters |).

• Multiple templates for deletion: {{subst:Tfd2|name of the first template|name of the second template|name of the third template|title=name of the first template|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}
• Multiple templates for merging: {{subst:Tfm2|name of the first template|name of the second template|with=main template (optional)|title=name of the first template|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If there is a template you want the other templates to be merged into, you can optionally specify it using |with= as shown in the example above.

After nominating, notify interested parties

While listing a template at TfD is sufficient, nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.

To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant template policies or guidelines, and please provide a link to the TfD discussion page itself.

Deletion sorting lists

After nominating a template, you can optionally inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "Deletion sorting lists", such as the ones for actors, music, academics, or specific countries. Since many people watch these sorting pages for subject areas that particularly interest them, adding your recent TfD nomination to one of these pages helps attract people familiar with a particular topic area. If you do it, insert {{subst:delsort|topic|~~~~}} as a new comment at the bottom of the TfD discussion, to let others know.

Notify related WikiProjects

WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD.

Tagging the nominated article's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will result in the article being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notify substantial contributors to the template

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the templates that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the template, use the Page History tool, or use Wikipedia Page History Statistics. Respect neutrality when making invitations to participate in the discussion; selectively notifying editors is not allowed. To notify them, you can ping them in a comment on the TfD discussion, such as {{ping|User1|User2|User3|...}} Notifying contributors to the templates. ~~~~. Alternatively, you can send them a talk page message using {{subst:Tfd notice|Name of the template}} (if you nominated it for deletion) or {{subst:Tfm notice|Name of the template}} (if you nominated it for merging).

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator.

Discussion

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning. People will sometimes recommend subst, subst and delete, or similar. This means they think the template text should be "hard-coded" into the articles that are currently using it. Depending on the content, the template itself may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Closing discussion

Administrators should read the closing instructions before closing a nomination. Note that XFDcloser semi-automates this process and ensures all of the appropriate steps are taken.

Current discussions

August 31

Template:Country data San Serriffe

• Template:Country data San Serriffe (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions. No possible use for this country data template for a "country" created as an April Fool's prank by a newspaper. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:24, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Current Irish Air Corps Aircraft

• Template:Current Irish Air Corps Aircraft (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused fork of {{Active Irish Air Corps Aircraft}} created as part of a discussion at the article that transcludes the original template. Creating what is essentially a duplicate template is definitely not the way to resolve this content dispute. The existing template can be edited, or the article can have a separate table added to display information that may not have consensus to be added to the original template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:18, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

• Comment. While I'm one of the editors involved in "this content dispute" (albeit a label I wouldn't have necessarily ascribed to the discussion until I'd seen the alternative template created), and therefore think that a !vote of "delete" from me would seem a little inappropriate, I do agree with Jonesey95 that an additional template perhaps isn't the best approach here.... Guliolopez (talk) 13:34, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

August 30

Template:Women's handball in Romania

• Template:Women's handball in Romania (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox with no main article and no transclusions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:55, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Shiga Prefecture

• Template:Shiga Prefecture (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox with no transclusions and no main page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:52, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

• Redirect to {{Shiga}}. Literally a duplicate of this template. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 00:43, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
• Redirect. Well spotted by Miminity. Pichpich (talk) 16:15, 31 August 2026 (UTC)
• redirect per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:03, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 1988 Summer Olympics

• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 1988 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox with no transclusions and no main article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:47, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Fushimi-ku, Kyoto

• Template:Fushimi-ku, Kyoto (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Kyoto (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Fushimi-ku, Kyoto with Template:Kyoto.
This is the only ward of Kyoto, or any other designated cities in Japan that has this template. I think it is better to merge the content of this page with the {{Kyoto}} Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:15, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep separate template for Fushimi-ku: The question is how many items about Kyoto are on ENwiki space. If all sites in Kyoto (that includes all metro stations) could fit on one template, that would be one thing. However I feel Kyoto is so large, with so many sites, that not all of the content could fit on Template:Kyoto. I think all wards each should have one template. en:Kyoto Municipal Subway has multiple stations, for example. WhisperToMe (talk) 13:30, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 22:00, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:2025–26 Professional U18 Development League/South East Division

• Template:2025–26 Professional U18 Development League/South East Division (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The only place where it would make sense to use this template is at 2025–26 Professional U18 Development League#South_East_Division but the table is already hard-coded there. Therefore, the template will be forever unused. Pichpich (talk) 21:10, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Deaths in year (100+) header

• Template:Deaths in year (100+) header (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Now that the corresponding article has been deleted (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deaths in 2026 (age 100+)), there's no use for this template anymore. Pichpich (talk) 20:11, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete Possible G8. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:33, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

• delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:03, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Template:Patrick Melton & Marcus Dunstan

• Template:Patrick Melton & Marcus Dunstan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is in fact a pair of existing navboxes {{Patrick Melton}} and {{Marcus Dunstan}}. It is currently unused and I don't think it should be used since it cannot be edited directly (one must edit one of the two navboxes instead). Pichpich (talk) 19:36, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete. I split these into two discrete navboxes as they have separate careers, no reason for this to exist. --woodensuperman 19:47, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:03, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

August 29

Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data/Kiribati medical cases chart

• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Kiribati medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Réunion medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Mayotte medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/French Guiana medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Falkland Islands medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Republic of Artsakh medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Armenia medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Andorra medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Guyana medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Norfolk Island medical cases chart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All such templates have resulted in delete and userfy in the past. See, October 2024, December 2025, January 2026, January 2026, January 2026, January 2026, January 2026.

These ten were overlooked during nominations and escaped the necessary action applied to similar ones before. Pinging, @WikiCleanerMan:. •Shawnqual• 📚 • 💭 23:54, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Leonhard Euler

• Template:Leonhard Euler (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This list is clealy intended to duplicate Category:Leonhard Euler and List of topics named after Leonhard Euler. Two lists of the same article are sufficient. (If deletion is acted, the entries of the template that are not in the category must be added to the category. D.Lazard (talk) 12:44, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Progressivism in Iran

• Template:Progressivism in Iran (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Since there is no significant difference in content from Template:Liberalism in Iran, this template is unnecessary. Unlike Progressivism in South Korea or Progressivism in the United States, "Progressivism in Iran" lacks a clear lineage or tradition. ProgramT (talk) 02:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Iranian progressivism developed as a distinct strand of political thought: while Iranian liberalism focuses primarily on constitutional government, individual rights and political freedoms, progressivism emphasizes transforming social and political institutions toward greater equality, emancipation and social reform. Iran also has a progressive intellectual lineage, from Kasravi and Shariati to Soroush, Shabestari and Kadivar. Merging this intellectual lineage into templates such as Liberalism in Iran or Socialism in Iran would obscure important differences in their political and intellectual framework. Afternaan (talk) 17:26, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

In that case, shouldn’t at least the colors of the template and flag be purple/pink/other instead of yellow? (see Template:Progressivism US and Template:Progressivism in South Korea.) ProgramT (talk) 08:48, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

No problem, I've now changed it to teal. If you think purple is more appropriate, we can also change it to purple, that's fine too. Afternaan (talk) 10:56, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

August 28

List of $COUNTRY writers

• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Beninese writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Democratic Republic of the Congo writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Gambian writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Guinean writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Ivorian writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Malagasy writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Malian writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Mozambican writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Nigerien writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Republic of the Congo writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Sierra Leonean writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Togolese writers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Various articles merged to List of African writers by country, which has its own editnotice. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:31, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:TSM Season 6 Standings

• Template:TSM Season 6 Standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:TSM World Cup Qualifiers S6 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template that provides standings for a league on Roblox (see this discussion with the template's creator). This should be deleted on the grounds that Wikipedia is not a webhost. Pichpich (talk) 18:31, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete Uncited sports table, can't be the TSM covered in TSM (esports) either. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:54, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nomination and per LaundryPizza03. See also Template:TSM World Cup Qualifiers S6 by same editor. ~2026-47022-54 (talk) 04:57, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Added to nomination. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:20, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

For the record, I also support deleting the second template. Pichpich (talk) 18:31, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

• delete both templates per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:29, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

August 27

Template:Nepalbhasamedia

• Template:Nepalbhasamedia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox with only red links in the body. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:32, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete. This template is completely useless and is not ready to be used anywhere. Qwerty123M (talk) 03:41, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Template:North Korean Footballer of the Year

• Template:North Korean Footballer of the Year (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not a useful navigational box, only a single award winner is listed. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:18, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:18, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 15:52, 27 August 2026 (UTC)
• Delete pointless navbox. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:15, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nom grapesurgeon (talk) 09:16, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete What's the reason of a template that only has one thing Arenghtqru888 lol ( hopefully I don't get trouted...) 20:32, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:30, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete. There are few sources available on the recent winners of this award, if there were accurate sources I would recommend editing the template per WP:ATD-E but in this case the template serves no good purpose. Qwerty123M (talk) 03:48, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Template:Jacinta Allan sidebar

• Template:Jacinta Allan sidebar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Breaks WP:SIDEBAR, which says "The collection of articles in a sidebar template should be fairly tightly related". Only Jacinta Allan, Allan ministry and Allan government are "tightly related". The other articles are just peripherally related. WP:SIDEBAR also says "If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles." That is not the case here. There articles can be naturally linked to each other in prose. Steelkamp (talk) 11:45, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:43, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete agree with the nominator, these links are clearly stretching the inclusion criteria for sidebars past what is reasonable. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:17, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Rupert Hamer sidebar

• Template:Rupert Hamer sidebar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Breaks WP:SIDEBAR, which says "The collection of articles in a sidebar template should be fairly tightly related". Only Rupert Hamer and Hamer ministry are "tightly related". The other articles are just peripherally related. WP:SIDEBAR also says "If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles." That is not the case here. There articles can be naturally linked to each other in prose. Steelkamp (talk) 11:57, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:42, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per my comment in related discussion. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:20, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Daniel Andrews sidebar

• Template:Daniel Andrews sidebar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Breaks WP:SIDEBAR, which says "The collection of articles in a sidebar template should be fairly tightly related". Only Daniel Andrews and the articles on his ministries are "tightly related". The other articles are just peripherally related. WP:SIDEBAR also says "If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles." That is not the case here. There articles can be naturally linked to each other in prose. Steelkamp (talk) 11:49, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:41, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per my comment in related discussion. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:20, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:John Cain Sr sidebar

• Template:John Cain Sr sidebar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Breaks WP:SIDEBAR, which says "The collection of articles in a sidebar template should be fairly tightly related". None of these articles are "tightly related". The other articles are just peripherally related. WP:SIDEBAR also says "If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles." That is not the case here. There articles can be naturally linked to each other in prose. Steelkamp (talk) 11:48, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:41, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per my comment in related discussion. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:20, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Uw-username69

• Template:Uw-username69 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems unnecessarily specific; {{Uw-username}} and {{Uw-usernamewarn}} should be sufficient. Has been used a total of four times, as far as I can see. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:59, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Can probs be safely deleted tbh. //SHB2000 (talk) 02:00, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete unnecessarily specialized version of Template:Uw-username. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:23, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:30, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete. Agree with nominator's rationale. It is good to simplify the decision of what username warning template to add for editors. Qwerty123M (talk) 03:38, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Template:Test templates notice

• Template:Test templates notice (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions; superseded by Template:Templates notice? 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:27, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete unused and unlikely to be used, I agree that it looks like it has been superseded. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:25, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:31, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

August 26

Template:WikiProject Michelin Guide

• Template:WikiProject Michelin Guide (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:WikiProject Food and drink (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:WikiProject Michelin Guide with Template:WikiProject Food and drink.
Template:WikiProject Michelin Guide is not a WikiProject, but a TF @ Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Michelin Guide task force.

Template:WikiProject Michelin Guide has special instructions in an attempt to make it distinct from pages tagged as {{WikiProject Food and drink|Michelin=yes}}. I do not think this is the correct way to enforce such a distinction. Instead, |Michelin-hotel=, for example, should be created under Food and drink, and Template:WikiProject Michelin Guide subst'd to it.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:33, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink doesn't cover hotels. Tbhotch^™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 19:41, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

A simple search of Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink shows that Talk:United Kingdom Hotel & Talk:Brown Hotel (Louisville, Kentucky) are covered.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  20:47, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

First question, were they added by WikiProject F&D members? Talk:Brown Hotel (Louisville, Kentucky) was added by a bot, so in that particular case no. Second question, why are tagged as F&D? United Kingdom Hotel houses a McDonald's, a restaurant, and therefore is part of the foodservice taskforce (even if not tagged as such). Each case is different and independent, as is not a legitimate reason to summarize each case as "WP F&D can hold it", especially if the particular case is not within the WP scope of F&D. Tbhotch^™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 03:56, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Talk:Brown Hotel (Louisville, Kentucky) was added 18 years ago. If F&D had a problem with it and left it there for that long, then F&D is defunct.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  11:13, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

{{WP Food and drink}} is transcluded on 68 articles containing [Hh]otel, and 23 non-articles (all File talks), so I think your assumption & reluctance is misguided.

It didn't take long to find that Talk:Casino hotel was tagged at inception in 2014 by Northamerica1000, the creator of Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Members and project member.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  17:31, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Or maybe a more simple and obvious explaination would be that F&D members don't monitor when and where WPs are added (who would waste their time verifing if pages listed are part of a project anyway). At the end of the day you are overcomplicating things for the projects in this nomination. The simplest approach is either add the parameter to {{WikiProject Hotels}} as "|michelin=yes" (then redirect this template to {{WikiProject Food and drink}}) or transform it into a stand-alone template. Most of us are in favor (1 2) of becoming independent from F&D as this project overlaps multiple WPs: foodservice, awards, hotels and travel and tourism (and books if taking into consideration that the guide is still a book), but it simply hasn't happened at the moment simple because we have few member, even though the project is quite active. Tbhotch^™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 20:05, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

A new TF under {{WikiProject Hotels}} is a fine alternative. If/when more participants, activity, and articles exist, then a new WikiProject can be created. I would recommend using the same uppercase |Michelin= parameter name, with |michelin= as an alias, similar to what exists at F&D. A new TfM should be opened with Hotels after this one is closed.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  10:58, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Given that {{WP Food and drink}} can cover hotels, and that Michelin Guide is a restaurant and hotel guide, I don't see a problem using either the exiting |Michelin= or a new |Michelin-hotel=. All it depends on is how specific the TF participants want the TF (or TFs) to be, and the number of participants. If the total number of participants is low, |Michelin= would be the preferred choice, since it would not be dilutive. But if y'all choose |Michelin-hotel=, then you can simply say the new TF is a joint TF between {{WP Food and drink}} and {{WP Hotels}}, for example. (Either |Michelin= or |Michelin-hotel= can be made to be a joint TF, as long as there is consensus.)   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  00:35, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:TFNSW lines

• Template:TFNSW lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:TFNSW icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:TFNSW lines with Template:TFNSW icon.
I propose that these two templates be merged as they have similar functionality and for ease of use, one name should be used to transclude both the general roundels in addition to the line icons. The icon template should be merged into this one as this has more icons available, increasing the usefulness of this template for general use. Per point one of WP:TFD#REASONS, a redundant template should not be kept. Qwerty123M (talk) 08:47, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

• merge, also seems like there is overlap with Template:rail-interchange. Frietjes (talk) 15:04, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
• Merge Template:TFNSW icon into Template:TFNSW lines, agree that a single template makes sense here. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:30, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

• merge, seems self explanatory, its nice to keep things neat, and it will easier for future use Kyethepie21 (talk) 06:50, 28 August 2026 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Useddenim (talk) 15:28, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

• Merge Template:TFNSW lines with Template:TFNSW icon. In agreement with the reasoning.

Alexanderino (talk) 18:39, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

• support merge per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:31, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Image(s) Warning

• Template:Image(s) Warning (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Newly created "warning" template, unilaterally created by a single user to tag a single page without any evidence of having established a consensus that it was needed. For an example of why this kind of thing requires actual discussion first, it transcluded multiple redlinked maintenance categories that do not exist to have articles transcluded into them, which violates WP:REDNOT -- but precisely because new processes require regular editor work to maintain, there has to be a collective editorial will to actually create and maintain those queues, and a single editor's desire to force new maintenance work onto everybody's shoulders arbitrarily is unacceptable.
Additionally, the language here is tendentiously WP:POV, suggesting that some of the images are "inappropriate" when that may not be the case.
Again, this kind of thing should not be created without discussion to establish a consensus that it's needed, and is not the kind of thing that one individual editor (especially one whose account is barely six weeks old) should be creating unilaterally. Bearcat (talk) 03:16, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment @Bearcat while I do not think this template is appropriate, I am wondering why you thought it preferable to nominate the template at TfD immediately instead of starting with a talk page message to its creator? You (correctly) explain in detail how this banner is contrary to many of our guidelines, yet you yourself highlight that the user who created it is new, don't you think WP:BITE somewhat applies here? Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 17:40, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

August 25

Template:Long comment

• Template:Long comment (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is now obsolete with the creation of the new magic word __EXPECTSHORTPAGE__, which keeps articles off of Special:ShortPages. The magic word is currently not used directly in any articles, just in Templates and Modules that are used in deliberately short pages in article space, such as set indexes and soft redirects. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:40, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment: As with Template talk:Short pages monitor, it would probably be helpful to preserve this template's talk page by moving and redirecting it to something like Wikipedia talk:Special:ShortPages/Long comment. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:41, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Archive to Wikipedia:Historical archive as the standard location for templates which should not longer be used by are needed for historical reasons. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:33, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment Just add {{Historical}} at the top. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 19:21, 28 August 2026 (UTC).

Archive, alongside {{Short pages monitor}}. No longer needed. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 03:53, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:IUCNCS

• Template:IUCNCS (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Isn't this just a worse version of {{IUCN status}}? Let Me Edit It (talk) 13:25, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

The one advantage of TM:IUCNCS I see over the other template is that it links what the status means (for example, the CR red frame links to Critically endangered). Other than that, it does seem like TM:IUCN status is more versatile, and since it can work with all current parameters of the simpler template, my preference would be for merging and redirecting TM:IUCNCS into TM:IUCN status, while keeping the link function. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 14:19, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect (with linking added to {{IUCN status}}), though it also has better padding than IUCN status. --PresN 14:46, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

  @PresN, Choucas Looks like {{IUCN status}} already has the link option (set the option parameter to 2 or 12). --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 15:49, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

• Keep as wrapper I've converted the template into a wrapper for Module:IUCN status that applies the wikilink and expanded padding options. --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 17:08, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

  I still don't really see the point of this template, the wrapper only applies one parameter, which is easy to just type out. I think it's better to only have one template, instead of two different styles. Let Me Edit It (talk) 13:59, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Isolmant–Premac–Vittoria riders

• Template:Isolmant–Premac–Vittoria riders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not a useful navigational tool based on the number of red links. Let'srun (talk) 12:39, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment This template was nominated alongside other ones a few months ago and kept. I notice that the article associated with the team, Isolmant–Premac–Vittoria is also being currently proposed for deletion. The many redlinks in the navbox seem to be partially due to the fact that it is out of date, as it is used on the page of five or six sports BLPs, but without their name in it. Maybe let's leave the navbox alone when the discussion on the team itself or its members is not settled or not even started yet? Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 14:30, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Old discussions

August 24

Template:RNHM and Template:UWHS

• Template:UWHS (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:RNHM (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No documentation, transclusions, or incoming links to explain what it is for. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:12, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete. Looks like something that could go in an infobox in theory, but in practice currently there is nothing, per nom, and the creator stopped editing five years ago. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 14:32, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Short pages monitor

• Template:Short pages monitor (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is no longer needed, due to the creation of a new magic word that obviates its usefulness. See the template talk page for details. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:39, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Support. Makes sense, all transclusions have been replaced with the aforementioned magic word __EXPECTSHORTPAGE__. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:13, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Process question: is the talk page of the template going to be deleted along with the template itself? The talk page includes a link to Wikipedia talk:Special:ShortPages#Update August 2026 and a journal of how Template:Short pages monitor was being removed from its transclusions. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:13, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

We could copy or move the talk page contents to another place, possibly a subpage of Wikipedia talk:Special:ShortPages. It would be nice to keep it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:15, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete, superseded and replaced already, and move talk page to Wikipedia talk:Special:ShortPages/Short pages monitor (or more appropriate name) with a historical tag explaining where it came from. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 14:37, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Long comment.<!-- User:HouseBlaster suggested at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 August 25#Template:Long comment:

Archive to Wikipedia:Historical archive as the standard location for templates which should not longer be used by are needed for historical reasons. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:33, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

These two templates should be discussed together, since the mission of {{subst:long comment}} is to transclude {{Short pages monitor}} on a page. --> wbm1058 (talk) 14:12, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Archive, alongside {{subst:Long comment}}. No longer needed. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 03:52, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:ANZC team

• Template:ANZC team (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Per WP:TG: Templates should not normally be used to store article text that may need to edited, as this makes it more difficult to do so. This template only stores simple wikilinks, making article text difficult to modify. S.A. Julio (talk) 16:43, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Substitute then delete, indeed no point in having this in a template. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 14:39, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

August 23

Template:WikiProject Worthing

• Template:WikiProject Worthing (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WikiProject banner for a single-person "group of editors", created by an inexperienced (but promising!) editor in unwitting violation of Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. Alternatives include merging it up as a task force to WP:WikiProject England's banner. (This would technically require permission from WP:ENGLAND, but most groups are willing to do this.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:21, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

• Delete as created way too prematurely. But if upmerged, WikiProject Sussex would be more appropriate, as being next up the hierarchy (England being two steps up). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:05, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

  Wikipedia:WikiProject Sussex was marked as inactive recently, and it took them more than two months to notice and change the label to semi-active. I suspect that all the 'somewhere in England' groups need to be upmerged to WP:ENGLAND. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:03, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

• Delete or merge up depending on other WikiProjects opinion, but I agree with WhatamIdoing that all England-subdivision projects should consider merging with WP:ENGLAND as task forces. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 14:46, 25 August 2026 (UTC)
• Delete or merge. I would also like to see all 'somewhere in England' groups upmerged to WP:ENGLAND. See Wikipedia:WikiProject England/Projects for a relatively up-to-date list of statuses.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  12:23, 26 August 2026 (UTC)
• Delete/merge as others have said. Also noting associated items at Category:WikiProject Worthing. No comment on wider merging into the England project. -Kj cheetham (talk) 17:10, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:BadmintonAt2022MediterraneanGames

• Template:BadmintonAt2022MediterraneanGames (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only one valid link, no need for a template. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:42, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete, but we will continue to run into such issues as long as we will have tens of thousands of pages for individual sporting events and a template to connect a handful of them at a time (a look at Category:2022 Mediterranean Games event navigational boxes and then at many, many other ones and the pages they cover will make clear what I mean I think)... Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 14:51, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Lang-ro-Cyrl

• Template:Lang-ro-Cyrl (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Langx (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Lang-ro-Cyrl with Template:Langx.
Straggler from merge –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:44, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

Not a Straggler from merge; see the 27 September 2024 tfd at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 September 27/lang-?? templates § the second addendum

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:11, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep per Trappist. Occidental𓍝Phantasmagoria [T/C] 15:37, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment From what I understand, this template was excluded from the big merge because it has a custom label parameter. It seems to be used around 70 times in mainspace, almost always for Moldova-related topics (which makes sense, also per its main alias). However, after checking a random ten pages transcluding the template, I have yet to find even one instance of the label parameter being used. So my question is, do we really need it and therefore should we keep this distinct just for that? Because otherwise I would be inclined to merge. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 15:02, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

I'm confused. I looked at the first ten articles listed at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Lang-ro-Cyrl. Of those, nine use the {{Moldovan Cyrillic}} redirect and one uses the {{lang-mo-Cyrl}} redirect. In all cases, {{Lang-ro-Cyrl}} displays the label Moldovan Cyrillic. This is as it should be since in the template's wikitext is this:

|label=[[Moldovan Cyrillic]]

This is necessary because this:

{{langx|ro-Cyrl|молдовень}} → Romanian: молдовень

when what is wanted is:

{{Lang-ro-Cyrl|молдовень}} → Moldovan Cyrillic: молдовень

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:09, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:2026 Vietnam National Games schedule

• Template:2026 Vietnam National Games schedule (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I saw the other sports having the date outside of the opening ceremony on Vietnamese Wikipedia of 2026 Vietnam National Games, and i realized the schedule is useless and don't want to use it anymore. Thành Hưng (talk) 02:03, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete unused and unlikely to be used, per nom and creator. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 15:04, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

August 22

Template:Infobox United States Congress

• Template:Infobox United States Congress (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Infobox legislative term (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox United States Congress with Template:Infobox legislative term.
Per WP:INFOBOXCOL. Congress is a legislature and all existing parameters are found in the Template:Infobox legislative term. Wasting time is still my passion (talk) 15:22, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

support per nom. Mehedi Abedin 00:56, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Support replacing then deleting, sensible consolidation. I spent some time looking at the parameters and there should be no issue, except maybe for the non voting delegates, but I think the bigger box can manage this fine as well. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 15:17, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

August 21

Template:2010 FIFA World Cup qualification (CAF Third Round) group talk

• Template:2010 FIFA World Cup qualification (CAF Third Round) group talk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Intended to help navigate between non-existent group standing templates. S.A. Julio (talk) 22:17, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 08:46, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 08:47, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Irish language place name

• Template:Irish language place name (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, plus the code is trivial: meaning '{{{1}}}'. Earlier today, it was used on two pages: Two Rock, which I removed in the process of rephrasing; and Tír Eoghain, which I removed for clarity of the wikitext, and because there's no sense using a trivial template on a single page. — W.andrea (talk) 19:08, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

Merge Template:Irish place name Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 20:51, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

• Delete clearly superfluous template not in use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iveagh Gardens (talk • contribs) 18:28, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Molecules detected in outer space

• Template:Molecules detected in outer space (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Having this as a navbox does not appear to be the optimal solution. Many of the pages listed never mention the occurrence in outer space, and the property seems rather arbitrary for a navbox. It seems that List of interstellar and circumstellar molecules is sufficient, and could be linked in a "see also" section instead of this navbox. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:31, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

• Keep, please read the guideline and guideline summary at WP:CLN, navigational boxes, lists, and categories are complimentary to each other and the existence of one is not applicable to argue for the deletion of another. This is an informative and scientifically important navbox. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:01, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
• Delete, fails 3 of the 5 guidelines at WP:NAVBOX, and morally, this just isn't a useful one with a good, comprehensive list article on the subject. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:15, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

  Again, please note the brief summary of WP:CLN which explains that lists, navboxes, and categories compliment each other on Wikipedia. Playing one against the other makes no policy sense and is the opposite of how the rules are laid out. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:37, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

  Complement, not compliemnt. And right after that, it says "At the same time, there may be circumstances where consensus determines that one or more methods of presenting information is inappropriate for Wikipedia." I'm arguing that this is one of those times. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:55, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox diplomatic crisis

• Template:Infobox diplomatic crisis (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template is only used on 8 pages. Claims to have been ported from {{Infobox civil conflict}} but with zero documentation to speak of, there is no indication as to why {{Infobox civil conflict}} cannot be used? Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 04:52, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

Comment: See my point in the last time this was put in TfD. ⠀⠀⠀⠀ .n the homo 07:24, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

Been six months since the last TFD, in that time the template has not gotten an documentation or increased in usage. There is still not distinction beyond the name. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 00:08, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

• Delete I previouly nominated this template for deletion. and the arguments remain the same. It is a copy of Template: Infobox civil conflict but with a different name. This template was made to resolve a dispute over whether to use Template: Infobox civil conflict or Template: Infobox civil conflict. While the name of the template might better describe one application of Infobox civil conflict, this application can be described in the documentation and/or by using a redirect with the alternative name. It does not require the creation of a new template. The template is redundant. Two of the applications of this infobox resulted from changeing the template used from military conflict or civil conflict to diplomatic crisis. What the reader sees is unaffected by the change. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:17, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete, a redirect is sufficient if the templates do not differ in appearance. Wasting time is still my passion (talk) 15:12, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox archive/wikidata

• Template:Infobox archive/wikidata (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Barely used template where the parent template ({{Infobox archive}}) is actually a redirect. No need for a wikidata version of this. The 7 pages that use this draw very little from wikidata and can easily be converted. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 04:38, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

August 20

Template:LGBTQ in Ecuador

• Template:LGBTQ in Ecuador (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this navbox, created over a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:50, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Sidebar List Canada Electoral Districts Toronto (historical)

• Template:Sidebar List Canada Electoral Districts Toronto (historical) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this sidebar, created over a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:49, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:1955–56 in Mexican football

• Template:1955–56 in Mexican football (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions or main article for this navbox, created over a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Eczacıbaşı VitrA - 2019 Turkish Women's Volleyball Super Cup (Winners)

• Template:Eczacıbaşı VitrA - 2019 Turkish Women's Volleyball Super Cup (Winners) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Eczacıbaşı VitrA - 2020 Turkish Women's Volleyball Super Cup (Winners) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions or main article for this navbox, created over a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Header notice

• Template:Header notice (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links to explain why it exists. Created over a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:45, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:King Bhumibol's children who received Krom titles

• Template:King Bhumibol's children who received Krom titles (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, main article, or incoming links for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:42, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

• delete useless. Only 2 items. --Altenmann >talk 18:54, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 1992 Summer Olympics

• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 1992 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 1996 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 2000 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 2004 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 2008 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 2012 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 2016 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Denmark Swimming 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:41, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Footer Australia Swimming 1996 Summer Olympics

• Template:Footer Australia Swimming 1996 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Australia Swimming 2000 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Australia Swimming 2004 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:40, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Bob Dylan songs (1990s)

• Template:Bob Dylan songs (1990s) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Bob Dylan songs (2000s) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Bob Dylan songs (2010s–2020s) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for these navboxes, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:38, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me to use these! Elephantranges (talk) 01:04, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

• Merge {{Bob Dylan songs (1990s)}} with {{Bob Dylan songs (1980s)}} and Merge {{Bob Dylan songs (2010s-2020s)}} with {{Bob Dylan songs (2000s)}}. The transclusions should be completed by the template's creator to make these actually useful. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 07:32, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Soviet Union handball squad 1988 Summer Olympics

• Template:Soviet Union handball squad 1988 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:37, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Norway Women Handball squad 2008 Summer Olympics

• Template:Norway Women Handball squad 2008 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Norway women handball squad 2012 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:37, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox movie camera type

• Template:Infobox movie camera type (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, incoming links, or documentation for this infobox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:37, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox literature

• Template:Infobox literature (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions or incoming links for this broken infobox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:37, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Footer Spain Swimming 2012 Summer Olympics

• Template:Footer Spain Swimming 2012 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:36, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Footer Germany Swimming 1996 Summer Olympics

• Template:Footer Germany Swimming 1996 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Germany Swimming 2000 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Footer Germany Swimming 2004 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:36, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:PD-AR-Bora

• Template:PD-AR-Bora (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, documentation, or template parameters. Created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:35, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Denmark Women Handball squad 2004 Summer Olympics

• Template:Denmark Women Handball squad 2004 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions and no main article for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Country data Salm-Salm

• Template:Country data Salm-Salm (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions or incoming links. Created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

There is a transclusion listed on the Pages that link to page for the article, that is the article itself. There are also redirects to the template and it is categorized as a template. IZ041 (talk) 15:12, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Correction: It is categorized as a country data template with an actual category that is the category for the for the country data templates for the former provinces of France. IZ041 (talk) 15:17, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Netherlands squad 2023 World Women's Handball Championship

• Template:Netherlands squad 2023 World Women's Handball Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions and no main article for this navbox, created a month ago. Fifth-place team. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:33, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Germany Women Handball squad 2024 Summer Olympics

• Template:Germany Women Handball squad 2024 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions and no main article for this navbox, created a month ago. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:33, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:A Series of Unfortunate Events

• Template:A Series of Unfortunate Events (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Newly created large sidebar that is redundant to {{Lemony Snicket}}. Recommend redirecting to that navbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:59, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Dear sir, I only created this template because I thought there wasn't one. Please, could you keep it, so people don't have to scroll down? The Chronicler of Chroniclers (talk) 21:47, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

And besides, this template only focuses on works associated with A Series of Unfortunate Events, not necessarily Snicket’s whole bibliography… The Chronicler of Chroniclers (talk) 22:25, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Noble cause but I do agree with the editor above that not only is the content inside redundant, but also that it seems to lack notability. Thus I think it should be deleted for not being noteworthy. EvenOvenlord17 (talk) 13:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Sir, has the original template done this before, or is mine more refined? The Chronicler of Chroniclers (talk) 12:51, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Now, let me speak to you why i truly created the template: who wants to have to dig through links just to get all the information they know about the novel series? The Chronicler of Chroniclers (talk) 10:03, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Userboxtable

• Template:Userboxtable (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Userboxtabletop (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A new redundant template, as far as I can tell. We already have a well-developed set of templates for this purpose at {{Userbox table top}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:42, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

Hi, template creator here. The reason I made this was because I wanted a userbox table that still looked like a table. The set that we currently have does not have any outlines and frankly doesn't look very much like a table (which is the look I wanted), so I created one to make it easier for me to do that. You can see an example of this template at my userbox page. --DollarStoreBa'al^Converse 14:41, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

I recommend adding a custom |style= parameter to the existing template rather than creating a new template that does basically the same thing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:17, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

• move to userspace (only used by one user). Frietjes (talk) 19:10, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Cattle breeds of China

• Template:Cattle breeds of China (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only links two articles, WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 10:12, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

• Well, that's because somebody removed all the other links, isn't it, Woodensuperman? In any case, as in previous discussions of the same type:
  • Keep, no policy-based reason for deletion has been given (do we in fact have any relevant policy?). WP:REDLINK (a guideline) is perfectly clear: Red links may be used in navboxes that also contain links to existing articles, but they cannot be excessive. Editors who add excessive red links to navboxes are expected to actively work on building those articles, or else the links may be removed from the template. WP:NAVBOX (also a guideline) has Red links can be retained in navigation templates that represent a well-defined and complete set of data and also ... links should be blue; dead links should be red". WP:NENAN is an essay, so has no weight here. And WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason for deletion. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:39, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

August 19

Template:Polandball-based article

• Template:Polandball-based article (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I dont see any use for this template whatsoever Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 11:10, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

• Delete Clearly a joke temple, that can only be used for vandalism. Artemis Andromeda (talk) 11:42, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Maybe it's not for vandalism. It's used for dictating that an article is based on Polandball, a massive internet meme and webcomic. ElliotGuy0000 (talk) 19:21, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

this person created the template Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 19:37, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

It's not necessary to explicitly point out that an article is based on Polandball because a reader can just read the article to find out it is about Polandball. Also, the only article that could ever carry such a template is the Polandball article itself, as no other articles on the English Wikipedia are primarily about Polandball. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 22:37, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

• Delete because articles should not have disclaimers, and this template is a disclaimer. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 22:33, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:France FIFA World Cup record

• Template:France FIFA World Cup record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Germany FIFA World Cup record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Jamaica FIFA World Cup record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Netherlands FIFA World Cup record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Peru FIFA World Cup record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:China FIFA World Cup record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:China AFC Asian Cup record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Netherlands UEFA European Championship record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Germany UEFA European Championship record (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All these tables are only transcluded to between one and three articles. A dedicated template is not necessary to store this content, they should be merged back into the national team articles. For the templates that are transcluded on multiple pages, we can use labeled section transclusion to sync the tables. Also per the recent TfD discussion here. S.A. Julio (talk) 09:51, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 09:56, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 18:35, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Infobox military Terror Attack

• Template:Infobox military Terror Attack (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and never used; judging by the source, this seems like it would be redundant to either {{Infobox military operation}} or {{Infobox civilian attack}}. Omphalographer (talk) 04:49, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

• Delete Unused and not needed. Pichpich (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

Delete per nom, not used or needed. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:43, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Video game livestreaming services

• Template:Video game livestreaming services (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Internet streaming services (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Video game livestreaming services with Template:Internet streaming services.
The 'Live Streaming' group in Template:Internet streaming services is almost the exact same as this template. TechnicalNewt (talk) 02:39, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:53, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

August 18

Template:English example needed

• Template:English example needed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links to explain why it was created. Created in June 2026. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:17, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

• Comment: I have added documentation and categories. This was created for marking non-English examples in linguistics articles, there would will eventually be transclusions. Forgot to sign; parameters added in documentation. ozmoozmo@enwiki$t.c 08:24, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Hershey Bar

• Template:Hershey Bar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Why do we have a template promoting one "wonderfully delicious" brand of chocolate? Fram (talk) 07:33, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

• Keep. Clearly useful, even though Hershey bars taste like paraffin. No different from many other branded WikiLove templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:12, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

  Then those others should be replaced by non-branded ones as well. Wikipedia should not have templates lauding one specific brand, even with good intentions. Fram (talk) 12:21, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

  I have no idea why we would keep templates about the "fishy, gooey goodness" of McDonalds fast food either, but let's start with a TfD for this one specifically. What is the purpose of advertising one specific brand of candy when supporting each other. "I think you are doing great work, have a refreshing cola!" works just as well as "I think you are doing great work, you deserve that uniquely refreshing taste of an ice-cold Coca Cola" but has none of the jucky "this message brought to you by brand X" undertones. Fram (talk) 12:26, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

  What guideline or policy are you citing in an attempt to eliminate this useful and used template? – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

  WP:NOTPROMO. Fram (talk) 09:32, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Keep there is nothing wrong with this WikiLove template. Posting a message sharing a chocolate bar on a user talk page is nowhere close to WP:PROMO. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 15:56, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Posting a chocolate bar isn't WP:PROMO, but posting a "wonderfully delicious" Hershey bar, how can that not be promotional? What does adding the brand an the gushy language actually add to the template? Fram (talk) 16:51, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Bare anchored list

• Template:Bare anchored list (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Anchored list (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Bare anchored list with Template:Anchored list.
Per its history, this template is exactly like {{anchored list}} but uses bare-numbered anchors #1, #2,... instead of #alist-1, #alist-2,...; code copied from {{anchored list}} . As Pppery said 9 years ago, this creates duplicate code everywhere! Template:Bare anchored list should become a wrapper of Template:Anchored list to maintain the same functionality. FaviFake (talk) 15:15, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 01:39, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Video game gameplay

• Template:Video game gameplay (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The following template is a significantly duplicated version of Template:Game design, which currently contains only 1 page linking to it.

As a matter of transparency, my normal method of requesting template deletion is to remove all links to the page before proposing it for deletion as unused, which as far as I am aware, is not against policy. However, @Zxcvbnm: has taken issue with this methodology, so I am posting it here for further discussion per request

To provide full context of the page, "Video game gameplay"currently contains 103 links inside it, not including the upper headers. Of those, 76 are completely duplicate of "Game design", and 14 are links that already exist on other templates, most of them from Template:Video game monetization. This leaves only 13 links that do not exist on any other game template as of now.

These are the only links not duplicated somewhere: Brush, Idle animation, Loading screen, Procedural generation, Map seed, skybox, Level editor, Nintendo hard, Play-by-mail game, and Outline of video games.

All other pages have already been moved over to "Game design", or moved to another template. As a note, 5 of the 13 pages on this template don't even transclude the template at all, so there's probably a few more I could move over, if I'd known they existed

Is there any objections to me finishing moving the remaining 13 pages to other templates, and then requesting this template be deleted? EDIT: having walked away from this for over a week, I realized that this last line doesn't really answer the underlying question I was looking to ask, which is whether the template should be deleted. So, instead I'll ask this: ignoring the improper way I've gone about this, is there any benefit anyone can see to having these 2 very similar templates?. 13akoors (talk) 22:02, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

I'd debate the idea that it is not against policy, WP:DELPRO says a deletion discussion is required to delete any normal page, and procedurally deleting it for unuse after manually removing it from all articles is a form of gaming the system, even if done in good faith. I assume admins put the kibosh on the template not because it was within policy, but because it wasn't obvious it was previously used somewhere until just recently. I'd avoid that sort of tactic in the future, much less bragging about it, lest it look like you are trying to do an end run around TfD. If it ought to be deleted, it probably will anyway.

My issue with merging the templates is that it may be dubious to call some things "game design elements". Cutscenes, for example, are not really game design unless they are playable cutscenes, but they are concepts. (Which is what the other template purports to be about, even if it's named "gameplay"). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:09, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

Understood. I disagree that it's gaming the system, but I have no problems doing it differently going forward.

As for the template, the issue here isn't one of merger. It's one of usage. Let's say both templates remain. Then what we'll end up this template being 89% of the same links as "Game design", ignoring the 14 links that were on other templates. Either way, we'd need to heavily adjust both templates to make their be any reason these aren't the same. Not to mention that this template is laid out in a very unintuitive way. I have no idea what possible connections there are between Collision detection, Paper doll, and Attract mode, for example. Meanwhile, "Game design" has distinct sections for each one of these that I'd argue have much clearer delineations.

If both templates are kept, why would someone want to use this one? Both are about high level concepts. Both are about mechanics, Both have items, and effects, and in-game environments. What use could this template provide that isn't already being provided by "Game design"? 13akoors (talk) 23:44, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

• Procedural oppose. It is, in fact, against regular practice to to remove all links to the page before proposing it for deletion as unused. Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. In my opinion, it is a highly inappropriate and misleading tactic to make WP:TFDREASON #3 a fait accompli prior to nominating a TfD. James (^talk/_contribs) 16:26, 11 August 2026 (UTC)

  I think I've realized from this discussion that I do not understand the line in the sand for editing Wikipedia at all. Because when i read that line, I see that as saying "When you nominate a template, you should not remove transclusions until the discussion is done". I do not see that as meaning "you must have a discussion before removing transclusions".

  Is there some guidance you can point me to that I can read on this topic. Because I don't feel that the WP:TFD and WP:DELPRO are clear enough for me to understand what exactly is expected of me as an editor, and I worry that I'm going to have more issues in the future if I don't fully understand this 13akoors (talk) 00:37, 12 August 2026 (UTC)

  The main issue is that if the template is kept against the nominator's wishes, we have extra busywork reinstating the template to unknown pages. Orphaning a template is much easier, we have a list of pages to remove. Techie3 (talk) 13:01, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

  To partially assuage the worries of the above request, I edit Wikipedia in my spare time while doing video editing. If ordered to do so, I will personally restore the template to every page I removed it from (and also the ones that never transcluded the page to begin with, but were supposed to).

  That being said, now understanding the proper way to go about this, I would prefer to discuss the template on its merits, and not just my incorrect way of listing it for removal. I will edit my initial post to reflect this, since having walked away for about a week, I realized my initial post was not clear in what I was actually requesting. 13akoors (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 01:39, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

August 16

Template:Convert mu

• Template:Convert mu (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Cvt mu (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Specific instance of a conversion (Chinese mu to hectares) for a unit that should be supported in Template:Convert. If there is a usage case for a different mu unit, that can be supported as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:57, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

• Support, but see Template:Convert mu/doc#Notes; if closed as merge, all or part of this note should be ported to Template:Convert/doc, perhaps in § Area. Also, I would not like this to be closed rapidly or with little input, as this has been discussed several times before, most recently among @Stepho, Chrisahn, Artoria2e5, Johnuniq, Dondervogel 2, and Toadspike: in August 2025, and prior to that in 2023, 2022, and 2017. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:47, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

  Ping Stepho-wrs. Mathglot (talk) 23:50, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

  Moo? I am in support of the merge after a short look at the issue. In practical use "mu" should be specific enough since it only remains legal in PR China, unlike the other traditional-turned-metric-based units… Artoria2e5 🌉 01:24, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

  I suspect so, but some sourcing needs to be cleaned up across all the East Asian unit articles. The 1959 reforms phased out all the non-metric units for non-agricultural use by 1990. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:35, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

• This is possibly off-topic here but the issue has been discussed many times at convert, most recently at Template talk:Convert/Archive 3#Mu, or 'Chinese acres'. I commented: "As mentioned in these discussions and above, there is no standard definition for mu—it's value apparently varies with time and location. Adding a unit to convert gives it an official status and people will assume that convert magically works. That's unwise when a unit has no standard meaning. A problem with convert is that it is hard (apart from relying on dubious searches) to find where a unit is used to check if the usage is correct." Later in the same discussion, I showed how anyone can add the unit to convert and use it as a trial. If a unit is used and that usage has consensus, it will be retained. I haven't examined this template and don't know if convert would be an equivalent. Johnuniq (talk) 01:52, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
• My only comment then was that I do not have a feel for the size of a hectare, but (like 90 % of Wikipedia readers) I was taught SI units at school. Therefore, to ensure wide accessibility, the outputs of any conversion template should include an SI unit of area (say to square metres, square hectometres or square kilometres). My opinion has not changed. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 05:23, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

  I don't think whether a given term is an SI unit should be the decisive factor, or even a factor at all. Are you a scientist, or perhaps someone living in a non-metric country like the USA? Hectares may not be a standard SI unit (it used to be, but was delisted in June 2026), but it is a standard metric unit for land area consisting of 10,000m², that is, a square with 100 meter sides—about 2.47 acres. The hectare is used very nearly universally in metric countries for land areas from individual lots, to parks, farms, and forests (other than the very small which use m² or the very large, which use km²).

  The cutover appears to be roughly around 25,000 hectares; larger than that, and most use sq km. (A quick, unscientific check of Forest of Fontainebleau articles (22,000 ha) at ten European Wikipedias shows about half of them use hectares (fr, de, it, ru, ro, pl) and the others use sq km (pt, es, sv, da). 25,000 hectares is ~400,000 mu, so as a very rough approximation, that might be the point where we switch to using sq km, unless sources for a given parcel say otherwise, of course. Recall that {{convert}} supports conversion into multiple units, so both hectares and sq km could be used as the target units for a range of mu areas near the crossover.

  As far as using square hectometres, you're aware that they are equivalent to hectares, but the term is used far less frequently and is virtually incomprehensible to the average person. Using that term simply because it is an SI unit and hectare is not would be a disservice to our readers, per WP:JARGON. The term hectare is the most universally understood term for areas from suburban house plots to parks and middling-size forests, and should be the term of choice. Mathglot (talk) 20:53, 2 August 2026 (UTC)

  • You have missed my point. To make things crystal clear, my argument for preferring a conversion to square kilometre is simply "nearly all WP readers know what a square kilometre is" (and not "the square kilometre is an SI unit"). By comparison, few readers would know that a hectare is 10000 square metres. (I had to look it up myself)
  • It also seems appropriate to push back on the false statement "[the hectare] used to be [a standard SI unit]". The only SI units of area are the square metre and certain decimal multiples and sub-multiples. Those multiples happen to include the square hectometre, but not the hectare.

  Dondervogel 2 (talk) 05:35, 3 August 2026 (UTC)

  The convert mu template uses hectares because it is easier to only program one target unit for it, and ha was chosen for the reasons discussed above. I have no dog in this ha vs km2 discussion. I just want to note that once it’s integrated into convert proper, any target area unit will be available. Artoria2e5 🌉 02:18, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

  That would completely address my concern. I suggest choosing between what you call "convert proper" and leaving mu unconverted (with a link to an article explaining what it is). Thank you for explaining. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 05:55, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

• Comment I have notified WikiProject China, WikiProject Taiwan, WikiProject Hong Kong, and WikiProject Macau because this discussion. (WikiProject Measurement is defunct, so there is no one to notify.) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:53, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
• I share the concern in Johnuniq's green quote above. It is simply not possible to have a single conversion rate for the "Chinese mu", which varied widely throughout history and still varies by region today. I don't think it's wise to add this to convert unless we also have a date parameter that warns the user if they're using the template anachronistically. Toadspike [Talk] 07:05, 3 August 2026 (UTC)

  In modern usage "China" or "Chinese" colloquially refers to the mainland area of PR China (i.e. excluding the special administrative areas and parts not under their actual control). As far as that big chunk of land is concerned, there is a singular system of units, including a singular mu.

  "Varies by region today" is technically correct in the sense of "countries and regions". In other words the "regions" are country-level divisions (each with their two-letter "country code"), not divisions within a country, unlike the historical case. (I may have managed to offend both Great China unionists and "separatists" with this one. Welp.) Artoria2e5 🌉 02:10, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 17:14, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There seems to be general agreement with these templates not existing, but I'm not sure there's a clear consensus about whether to replace these with {{convert}} (or similar) or whether to just eliminate them entirely (replacing with only the numbers and/or specifically-calculated replacements depending on historic time period).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 20:02, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

References

Template:Niue icon

• Template:Niue icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Samoa icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Tonga icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Fiji icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Cook Islands icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Māori icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to Template:Flagicon, which includes Niue. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:18, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

• comment: I definitely agree that there is no reason for one of these for a single country wikiproject, but what is the equivalent method for producing a flagicon that links to a Wikiproject? or is the idea to just substitute/delete this? Frietjes (talk) 20:42, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

  Courtesy ping to the nominator, just in case they haven't seen the question (or the relist). Primefac (talk) 19:59, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Just to note, I have combined all of these into one nomination; they are all "This WikiProject link in a flag is identical to the Country data X template" with identical responses from a single participant. If any single template needs to be discussed separately feel free to ping me and I'll do so.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 19:56, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:WA Inc

• Template:WA Inc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template seems to have a very broad and poorly defined criteria for inclusion. Why are a bunch of random commentators included? Is that just any notable journalist who reported on WA Inc? Not all their articles actually mention WA Inc. And the list of politicians seems to encompass people who were directly involved (Burke, Grill, Berinson, Dowding, Parker) to people who were only tangentially involved, to people who weren't involved at all, such as Lawrence and Hawke, who only happened to be prime minister when this scandal occurred. Same with the businesspeople. Why is Robert Holmes a Court listed? Steelkamp (talk) 08:26, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 17:15, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

• Strong KeeKeep. The template is very useful in that it draws together various elements and personalities of the historic scandal in a way that does not succinctly emerge in any one of the component articles. @Steelkamp, Hawke was prominent in the John Curtin Foundation and Robert Holmes à Court was the main beneficiary of Bell and Rothwells transactions. Carmen Lawrence's involvement was in stalling the Royal Commission. Much of the WA Inc content has yet to be contributed and deletion of this template will chiefly serve the interests of those who wish to deny further disclosure of the damaging history, Bjenks (talk) 05:58, 12 August 2026 (UTC)

  Whether to delete this template or not has nothing to do with "the interests of those who wish to deny further disclosure of the damaging history" and everything to do with Wikipedia:Navigation template, which says:

  • "Articles included in a navigation template must be more than loosely-related"
  • "relatedness is a necessary but not a sufficient condition"
  • "including an arbitrary selection of articles related to the template's subject can present a point of view or give the subjects of the select articles included undue weight."
  • "The goal is not to cram as many related articles as possible into one space."

  What reason would someone reading Central Park need to have a link to Bob Hawke? That's a very tenuous connection. Steelkamp (talk) 12:28, 12 August 2026 (UTC)

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Template:İçli Pide

• Template:İçli Pide (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not particularly useful imo. Only like 5 strongly relevant articles; imo this should be converted into a navbox on bottom if wish to be kept. When it's a sidebar it causes MOS:SANDWICH issues, basically prevents images from being placed. grapesurgeon (talk) 10:18, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

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• Keep. No deletion rationale provided. Template is useful and used. It doesn't cause sandwich issues any more than any other sidebar. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:26, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

  I disagree that it's useful. It has like 5 links in it and causes sandwiching. And you're right that the sandwiching has the same issues as other sidebars; consequently I hate all sidebars and wish that all of them would be eliminated or converted to navboxes on bottom. grapesurgeon (talk) 11:47, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox Australian government

• Template:Infobox Australian government (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Infobox incumbency (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Australian government with Template:Infobox incumbency.
Per WP:INFOCOL. This template's purpose is identical to Template:Infobox incumbency, but it was needlessly made for Australia. The latter is used almost universally for different countries, such as:

• Premiership of Andy Burnham
• Premiership of Mark Carney
• Second presidency of Donald Trump
• Presidency of Emmanuel Macron

It is only transcluded on 33 pages, and I would be willing to manually convert any pages that need attention to facilitate the merge. Some of the fields are already the same in name and purpose, but there will be some that need to be renamed, and perhaps added to Template:Infobox incumbency. I will, however, propose removing the following fields, as they exist and are better suited for pages using Template:Infobox government cabinet:

• status
• startreason
• endreason

For example:

• Albanese government should use Template:Infobox incumbency
• First Albanese ministry already uses Template:Infobox government cabinet Wasting time is still my passion (talk) 10:40, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

  Support, it should be noted as well that similar articles of Australian state premiers (Crisafulli, Finocchiaro, Rockliff, Carroll, Allan all use the generic incumbency/administration infoboxes rather than the Australian specific version. There is no need for an Australian-specific version. DeadlyRampage26 (Chat) 09:56, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

  • Support - The template has served its purpose. Now that we have a universal one the Australian one should also be merged.

  Fixingthelies2025 (talk) 16:42, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

• Comment wouldn't a merger to Template:Infobox government cabinet be better to allow all template fields to be preserved? I don't really understand the snarky comment about this being "needlessly made for Australia" - I created Template:Infobox Australian government in March 2018 and Template:Infobox incumbency was created in May 2019. I T B F 📢 01:03, 12 August 2026 (UTC)

  Apologies if that remark sounded snarky; that wasn't my intention. Since Template:Infobox incumbency did not exist when you created this template, it was completely reasonable of you to have created this template. However, I will still advocate for the removal of the 3 fields I listed as to avoid modifiying Template:Infobox incumbency; my reasoning is in the RM proposal. Wasting time is still my passion (talk) 03:50, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

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• Support per WP:INFOCOL. I understand that there is a need for the template when it was created but now we have universal template so let’s merge it. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 01:31, 22 August 2026 (UTC)

June 12

Drainage basin succession templates

• Category:Drainage basin succession templates and subpages

I am nominating all of the templates in Category:Drainage basin succession templates (and its subcats) for replacement with {{drainage}}, which I created to centralise all of the 2k templates into one easy-to-update template. This means that if a new drainage basin is needed, a single template can just be edited rather than having to create yet another template. There will be no visible change to any article; code-wise it will simply be changing (for example) {{PAchelous}} to {{Drainage|Achelous}}. Primefac (talk) 00:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I've listed them all at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 June 4/Drainage basin succession templates. Gonnym (talk) 06:02, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

• Keep. There are two functionalities that will be lost by replacing the R- and P-templates with this new template. First, the R-templates categorize the articles that use them into a tributaries category, for instance {{RMeurthe}} into Category:Tributaries of the Moselle. Second, the system of interlinked P-templates implies that only one P-template ({{PWeser}}) has to be modified if the Weser article is moved to for instance Weser (river). In the {{Drainage}} template it would have to be changed in 55 places. Markussep ^Talk 07:46, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  I'm still working on a recursive version to deal with that; will likely be a module, but if not, the new syntax editor allows for really quick find/replace for something like Weser → Weser (river). As far as the Rs go, we have moved away from templates adding content categories to articles, so the R-names should be deprecated anyway. Primefac (talk) 09:26, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  Why? --Joy (talk) 12:12, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  About moving away from templates adding content categories to articles, could you point me to that guideline? Markussep ^Talk 12:50, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  WP:TEMPLATECAT. Gonnym (talk) 14:18, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  That guideline recommendation lists many reasons, but it's not clear which of them apply here. --Joy (talk) 17:20, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

  All of them? The sortkeys one does seem to be handled by the use of PAGENAME though. Primefac (talk) 09:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  For example it says editors can't see it in wikitext. Do we need them to see it, how likely is it that this sort of a thing needs to be edited? Or that we can't remove or restructure the categories - how likely is it that these categories need that to be done? --Joy (talk) 10:28, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

  OK, that's clear, thanks. Markussep ^Talk 12:23, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Why don't you create an implementation that confirms this is useful first, and then transclude it from those templates, make sure there's no regressions, and only then start a TfD to replace the call sites in the articles?

I never liked the P* and R* names myself, they seem too obfuscated, but that doesn't mean the functionality is bad. --Joy (talk) 12:15, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

I... did? I made {{drainage}} as a 1-to-1 replacement and plopped it in a few articles to make sure things would work. Primefac (talk) 09:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

That's not what I asked above. For example, the new template should be used within {{PAchelous}} and others, and then we see that it works, and then we can be at ease to ponder the fine details of naming and caller syntax. --Joy (talk) 10:32, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

That's.... not how things work? Why would I change the text inside PAchelous when PAchelous itself is the issue? It would be pointless for me to place {{drainage|Achelous}} inside of {{PAchelous}} just to show that they give exactly the same output:

{{PAchelous}} → Achelous→ Ionian Sea

{{drainage|Achelous}} → Achelous→ Ionian Sea

I'm not going to put drainage inside of the other templates to show that the new template works, just so that I can later go and replace the old templates with the new. I'm sorry if I'm still totally misunderstanding what you're going for, but it's not how things are worked at TFD so I guess that's from whence my confusion is coming. Primefac (talk) 09:51, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I guess I'm just not used to this method of development where we first make decisions and only then completely verify outcomes. In my mind, this ends up too much of an all-or-nothing experiment, instead of a gradual and safe transition. Obviously, this is all pretty minor and simple and there's only so much that can go wrong with so little code, but the method is still weird to me. --Joy (talk) 11:05, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I mean, in this particular case I have verified the outcome, but yes, at TFD it is often the case that "we should merge these two templates" is decided first, and then the merge happens. I figured I would show proof of concept because it would be egg on my face if it didn't work. Primefac (talk) 23:16, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

General support - Have not read through all the intricacies of this template, but fully support centralizing this and replacing over 1,000 tiny templates with 1 larger, easy to maintain template. Obviously lets make sure all the functionality gets flushed out, but Primefac has a lengthy track record when it comes to template work so I have full faith that they can make this solution work. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 04:33, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

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I've used claude.ai to see if Lua can handle the issue that Markussep raised better. The result is at Module:Sandbox/Gonnym/drainage (again, this is AI-written). Gonnym (talk) 08:23, 14 June 2026 (UTC)

Apparently there is an error in the module. When I tried {{#invoke:Sandbox/Gonnym/drainage|chain|Fulda}} (or any other river), I got "Lua error in Module:Sandbox/Gonnym/drainage at line 436: attempt to concatenate field 'Lake Baikal' (a nil value)." It's a nice idea, but I guess it needs good documentation for anluabetes like me. Markussep ^Talk 17:44, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

@Markussep fixed the bugs. Gonnym (talk) 19:22, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

But I need to emphasis this, this was done with AI so if anything from this is used, the data needs to be verified. Gonnym (talk) 19:25, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Looks good to me, but indeed the output needs to be checked before each P-template is replaced. I think it's not too difficult to add new connections, so I support using this module to replace the P-templates. A maintenance category would be nice. Markussep ^Talk 07:22, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the proposed template works for all current cases, so while I am fine with using a module (which I agree will allow for easier creation of new links) the replacement doesn't have to use the module from the get-go (assuming the replacement proposal is accepted). Primefac (talk) 20:33, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

At the very least, delete the R-templates as they are all unused. Gonnym (talk) 07:49, 15 June 2026 (UTC)

Agree, but they're not unused (at least the ones I checked, like RLoire, REms, RPo, RAngara), they'll have to be substituted. Markussep ^Talk 17:48, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

Ah, those weren't in the unused reports so they aren't listed at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2026 June 4/Drainage basin succession templates. Gonnym (talk) 19:24, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

A month later and no additional opposing input, so fully support proposal. --Gonnym (talk) 12:44, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

Support replacement, this looks like sensible consolidation to me. Choucas 🐦‍⬛ 13:02, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Comment: 300+ river templates starting with "R" appear to have been replaced with something else as part of this as-yet-to-be-concluded TFD, in edits like this. They are appearing at User:Jonesey95/self-transcluded-templates, a report of unused pages in template space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:03, 7 July 2026 (UTC)

That is only vaguely inspired by this TFD; I'm independently following WP:TEMPLATECAT to add categories directly to the page; the fact that the R templates have the category already and I can just subst to get them makes it a lot easier to add them. Primefac (talk) 08:44, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Completed discussions

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