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Iron age men left home to join wives’ families, DNA study suggests. Study highlights role of women in Celtic Britain and challenges assumptions most societies were patrilocal. You know, I'm pretty sure I've read about other societies which were matrilineal/matrilocal? With additional 'husbands having to mind their manners as well as bringing home the bacon'?

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This seems resonant with the above: Engaging with African feminist interpretations of the maternal:

In African feminist literary works, the mother as a metaphor has been used to elevate and celebrate women’s roles in society while deconstructing symbolisms that debase women in masculine-ordered discourses. Similarly, Nortje-Meyer describes mothering as an inherently African way of care that also includes non-maternal care provided to a group or community. African feminists are troubled by the theorized association between motherhood and victimhood, theories that African feminist scholar Oyèrónkẹ́ Oyěwùmí argues find their origins in Western epistemes that are based on rigid dichotomies such as the mind/body.

Makes interesting points about the role of older women and traditional rules.

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Also on issues around motherhood, childcare, etc: Of church halls and custard creams or, the strange disappearance of community playgroups. I have a sort of recollection that playgroups were one of the grassroots things that sprang up in ?early 60s associated with the National Housewives' Register. I'm not quite sure you can talk about 'feminism' in the early-mid 60s in the way this piece does, the second wave really only got going really at the end of the 60s: although feminism was there (hai Katharine Whitehorn etc) it was not necessarily articulated as such. This movement seems very distinct from the actual childcare element of the 6 Demands of Women's Liberation in the 70s. I wonder how far this playgroup movement intersected with things like natural childbirth.... And how far this is a very specific corner of a much broader phenomenon.

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Euphemising lady-parts: Helen King explores the euphemistic, floral language used to describe and disguise the clitoris, by men and women alike:

Talking about women’s bodies in terms of flowers can be simple euphemism, and it may seem like a way of valuing the “floral parts” – even of acknowledging their beauty – but there’s a less body-positive reading of this imagery. The fleeting nature of the flower’s blooming suggests not only fragility but also that, like fruit, it needs to be picked or plucked at the right moment.

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I am alas pretty much certainly not going to get to NYC to see this exhibition: Belle da Costa Greene: A Librarian's Legacy. Sigh.

Date: 2025-01-17 05:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mirlacca
The Diné (commonly called by the Anglo community "Navaho") are matrilocal. Not positive about matrilineal, but when two get together, they introduce themselves by naming their clans: born to, mother's clan, born for, father's. This is to avoid various taboos and establish familial relationships.

Date: 2025-01-17 08:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] spiralsheep
The Mosuo in Sichuan and Yunnan are also well-known.

Date: 2025-01-17 11:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lilysea
I wonder how much of the decline of playgroups is

a) with families where both parents are in fulltime paid work, no one has time for the volunteer labour required to run playgroups

b) insurance costs for public liability for anything around childcare have gone way up

c) rising real estate costs means it is harder to find a suitable venue to rent/borrow for a playgroup at an affordable cost

Date: 2025-01-18 08:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shewhostaples
I think the principle of "getting out of the house with your child reduces your likelihood of going doo-lally, and meeting to commiserate with others in the same situation is even better" is going to be pretty constant, but it's much less likely to be entirely self-organising in a society where most families need both parents to work.

It is still there, however. I don't know how representative my local provision is, but in what's essentially a market town of 30,000 people, I could find something to do every day of the working week. They tend to be provided by:
- the local authority (at or through the Child and Family Centre, or at the library)
- churches (while there are some overtly religious events, it's mostly a case of emptying a very large toy cupboard and making a lot of coffee; volunteers tend to be either churchgoers who have retired or parents whose children have aged out of the group)

What these groups do give you that formal childcare can't is a network of people in one's own situation to commiserate with, and time and space to do so. Which is not to be sneezed at. Parenthood can be very lonely at times.

Date: 2025-01-18 07:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
It does seem kind of foolish to go into places or digs assuming that your rules are their rules, but it does happen with regularity and frequency, and then we have to re-learn things with more time.

I find it interesting how much that flower language continues into our current day, including all of the language about the delicacy of the flower and how much it can be "damaged" by premature or "inappropriate" use.

Date: 2025-01-19 02:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ankaret
My mother ran what were called Opportunity Groups in the 1970s and 80s (I think this was associated with the PPA, but specifically included children with learning delays - there were definitely kids who also had physical disabilities, but whether there was anyone with just physical disabilities, I couldn't tell you).

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